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This is a great example of sales and marketing outpacing technology. Tesla has been absolutely negligent from the very beginning by marketing Autopilot as "full

This is a great example of sales and marketing outpacing technology. Tesla has been absolutely negligent from the very beginning by marketing Autopilot as "full self driving". Full level 4 self driving capability does not exist, and will not exist for a long time to come. They have repeatedly lied to the public through their advertising to make people think that it does. What Autopilot is is a very sophisticated form a cruise control, and nothing more. Those peoples' deaths are on Elon's hands for purposely selling a false bill of goods.

cj 5y ago
> This is a great example of sales and marketing ... I don’t know if shifting the responsibility from the technology to marketing is the right move here. It would be very easy for Tesla to do what every other car company already does with lane keeping, which is making sure the drivers hands are on the wheel. If I take my hands off the wheel of my VW for more than 30 or so seconds, lane keep assist turns off and I’ll drive straight into a tree if I don’t put my hand back on the wheel. ...or is Tesla’s philosophy that you shouldn’t need to touch the steering wheel turning a trip from point a to point b, even without level 4 self driving? How do Tesla’s verify drivers are engaged? And how does the system penalize drivers when they aren’t engaged for extended periods? There is definitely a problem with their marketing. But the core problem is the technology, IMO.
- aphextron 5y ago
  Every other car manufacturer makes it a point to ensure that drivers are never under the impression that things like LKAS and ACC are meant to supplant the drivers undivided full attention to the road. Toyota specifically has held back their technology for this very reason. Even GM Super Cruise, which is arguably more advanced than Autopilot, is marketed solely as an advanced form a cruise control, with no mention anywhere of any kind of autonomy, and is only enabled when the system is certain the driver is in the seat watching the road.

cj 5y ago

> This is a great example of sales and marketing ... I don’t know if shifting the responsibility from the technology to marketing is the right move here. It would be very easy for Tesla to do what every other car company already does with lane keeping, which is making sure the drivers hands are on the wheel. If I take my hands off the wheel of my VW for more than 30 or so seconds, lane keep assist turns off and I’ll drive straight into a tree if I don’t put my hand back on the wheel. ...or is Tesla’s philosophy that you shouldn’t need to touch the steering wheel turning a trip from point a to point b, even without level 4 self driving? How do Tesla’s verify drivers are engaged? And how does the system penalize drivers when they aren’t engaged for extended periods? There is definitely a problem with their marketing. But the core problem is the technology, IMO.

aphextron 5y ago
Every other car manufacturer makes it a point to ensure that drivers are never under the impression that things like LKAS and ACC are meant to supplant the drivers undivided full attention to the road. Toyota specifically has held back their technology for this very reason. Even GM Super Cruise, which is arguably more advanced than Autopilot, is marketed solely as an advanced form a cruise control, with no mention anywhere of any kind of autonomy, and is only enabled when the system is certain the driver is in the seat watching the road.