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At least on my Model 3, the manual override is a literal handle that is easy enough to use that I have had unfamiliar passengers open the door with it accidenta

by yakz 5y ago

At least on my Model 3, the manual override is a literal handle that is easy enough to use that I have had unfamiliar passengers open the door with it accidentally more than once.

dragontamer 5y ago
https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads/opening-the-doors-in-the-model-s-if-power-fails.9452/ https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads/opening-the-doors-in... > The interior handles on the front doors electronically open the door; if you continue pulling them all the way, a cable engages and unlocks the door in case of power loss > The rear door latch is in the body frame and not the door. Therefore, in the event of power loss, there's something to pull on under the seat which will open the door That's from 2012, so things have probably changed for the S. The front door looks easy enough, but if the front door was damaged from the accident... the rear-manual open procedure looks complicated.
- brianwawok 5y ago
  The rear manual on a 3/Y is a wire at the bottom of the map pocket on the door. I teach new passengers about it like some kind of airline safety video, but I doubt all people do.
  - yakz 5y ago
    You could also fold down the rear seats and escape through the trunk (the seat folding latches are on the inside of the Model 3).
- mywittyname 5y ago
  Car companies need to stop fucking around with door handles. All door handles should be physically connected to the latch mechanism. The time someone really needs a mechanical door latch will be an emergency situation where they are not in the frame of mind necessary to understand why the handle they've successfully used a million other times is suddenly not functioning. Imagine getting into a fist fight, only to realize that when you go to cover your face, your brain instead decides that your arms should cover your ass instead. "Well, the human manual says that during a fist fight, stomping your feet will cause your arms to cover your face." is hardly what someone wants to hear.
watwut 5y ago
When you slam to tree, various bits are broken or moved. What was possible to open might not be anymore. It happens in other cars too.
Alupis 5y ago
> At least on my Model 3, the manual override is a literal handle that is easy enough to use That's if you're conscious. After an accident strong enough for the batteries to burst into flames, the manual override being on the inside of the car seems dubious. Plus, as others have mentioned, it's very likely the same accident has wedged body panels together making opening of the door impossible, despite the manual override.
- dv_dt 5y ago
  The potential for body panels wedging a door close after an accident is pretty much a universal automotive problem, no matter what the latch release mechanisms are. (though I'm sure some latch designs might independently be more or less likely to get stuck).
  - Alupis 5y ago
    The problem here, is most cars don't spontaneously burst into flames upon impact... making getting out of the car in a real hurry non-necessary.
    - dv_dt 5y ago
      Most cars don't, but gas and electric cars both occasionally do so. I would guess that the rate of cars catching fire after an accident is actually higher for gas cars. If one wants a more guaranteed way out - I advise buying a safety hammer for your car. They have a pointed impact head to shatter safety glass, as well as a belt cutter in case your seat belt is jammed.
      - dragontamer 5y ago
        There are still fewer than 2-million Teslas in existence. And the Ford Pinto (yes, the Pinto. The "exploding car" that was the subject of "Fight Club" the movie) had 27 fire-related deaths around the 2.2-million car sold. The number of Tesla-fires is quickly approaching Ford Pinto levels. (Mostly because the Ford Pinto fires were overblown: as a subject matter in a popular movie and pop culture, they really weren't much more explosive than other cars) -------- Furthermore: the explosions of Tesla vehicles are requiring far more care. There needed to be over 20,000+ gallons of water over four hours to douse the flames in this very crash. Only electric vehicles have that kind of sustained, multi-hour fire problem. Fire departments know full well how to put out a regular gasoline fire. But Li-Ion is kind of dangerous tech.

by yakz 5y ago

At least on my Model 3, the manual override is a literal handle that is easy enough to use that I have had unfamiliar passengers open the door with it accidentally more than once.

dragontamer 5y ago

https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads/opening-the-doors-in-the-model-s-if-power-fails.9452/ https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads/opening-the-doors-in... > The interior handles on the front doors electronically open the door; if you continue pulling them all the way, a cable engages and unlocks the door in case of power loss > The rear door latch is in the body frame and not the door. Therefore, in the event of power loss, there's something to pull on under the seat which will open the door That's from 2012, so things have probably changed for the S. The front door looks easy enough, but if the front door was damaged from the accident... the rear-manual open procedure looks complicated.

brianwawok 5y ago
The rear manual on a 3/Y is a wire at the bottom of the map pocket on the door. I teach new passengers about it like some kind of airline safety video, but I doubt all people do.
- yakz 5y ago
  You could also fold down the rear seats and escape through the trunk (the seat folding latches are on the inside of the Model 3).
mywittyname 5y ago
Car companies need to stop fucking around with door handles. All door handles should be physically connected to the latch mechanism. The time someone really needs a mechanical door latch will be an emergency situation where they are not in the frame of mind necessary to understand why the handle they've successfully used a million other times is suddenly not functioning. Imagine getting into a fist fight, only to realize that when you go to cover your face, your brain instead decides that your arms should cover your ass instead. "Well, the human manual says that during a fist fight, stomping your feet will cause your arms to cover your face." is hardly what someone wants to hear.

watwut 5y ago

When you slam to tree, various bits are broken or moved. What was possible to open might not be anymore. It happens in other cars too.

Alupis 5y ago

> At least on my Model 3, the manual override is a literal handle that is easy enough to use That's if you're conscious. After an accident strong enough for the batteries to burst into flames, the manual override being on the inside of the car seems dubious. Plus, as others have mentioned, it's very likely the same accident has wedged body panels together making opening of the door impossible, despite the manual override.

dv_dt 5y ago
The potential for body panels wedging a door close after an accident is pretty much a universal automotive problem, no matter what the latch release mechanisms are. (though I'm sure some latch designs might independently be more or less likely to get stuck).
- Alupis 5y ago
  The problem here, is most cars don't spontaneously burst into flames upon impact... making getting out of the car in a real hurry non-necessary.
  - dv_dt 5y ago
    Most cars don't, but gas and electric cars both occasionally do so. I would guess that the rate of cars catching fire after an accident is actually higher for gas cars. If one wants a more guaranteed way out - I advise buying a safety hammer for your car. They have a pointed impact head to shatter safety glass, as well as a belt cutter in case your seat belt is jammed.
    - dragontamer 5y ago
      There are still fewer than 2-million Teslas in existence. And the Ford Pinto (yes, the Pinto. The "exploding car" that was the subject of "Fight Club" the movie) had 27 fire-related deaths around the 2.2-million car sold. The number of Tesla-fires is quickly approaching Ford Pinto levels. (Mostly because the Ford Pinto fires were overblown: as a subject matter in a popular movie and pop culture, they really weren't much more explosive than other cars) -------- Furthermore: the explosions of Tesla vehicles are requiring far more care. There needed to be over 20,000+ gallons of water over four hours to douse the flames in this very crash. Only electric vehicles have that kind of sustained, multi-hour fire problem. Fire departments know full well how to put out a regular gasoline fire. But Li-Ion is kind of dangerous tech.