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If I may, allow me give you one unsolicited advice I've been slowly learning through the years: Most things in life have their downsides and shortcomings. We s

by hu3 6y ago

If I may, allow me give you one unsolicited advice I've been slowly learning through the years: Most things in life have their downsides and shortcomings. We should strive to minimize the impact of those and instead capitalize on their strengths. Take what good you can from HN and run with it. HN is great in many ways.

viklove 6y ago
I disagree. I think HN is good in some ways, but awful in many other ways so much so that it overshadows the good. Unfortunately the good can trick honest people like yourself into thinking the platform as a whole is good, but hey, you're entitled to your opinion.
- AnimalMuppet 6y ago
  Neither dang nor hu3 went over to your place, pointed a gun at your head, and forced to to hang out on a website you hate. If you think HN is awful in so many ways, vote with your feet. Go somewhere you like better. Why hang out here to complain about here?
  - viklove 6y ago
    Because I have bad impulse control, and dang won't let me delete my account :) Apparently once you sign up for HN they have the right to keep your soul locked up here forever. I've asked for them to delete my account or permaban me for over a year, but users just don't have rights here and that's just the mentality that dang has always had.
    - hu3 6y ago
      I'm guessing this doesn't apply to HN jurisdiction? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right_to_be_forgotten https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right_to_be_forgotten
    - dang 6y ago
      https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26561884 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26561884
      - viklove 6y ago
        https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23008642 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23008642 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22892517 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22892517 How about you guys just implement an account deletion button and treat your users like actual people?
        dang 6y ago
        > Even if you send them an email, apparently they're "too backed up" to handle account deletion requests I've searched and found no record of you emailing us. Did you mention the account name? We process these requests literally every day, so I'm not sure what you're trying to achieve with these claims.
        viklove 6y ago
        I think it's pretty clear what I'm trying to achieve. I'm trying to get you guys to implement an account deletion button in user settings like you should have. I should not have to expose my personal email by contacting you in order to do so. How would you even know the request was legit? I have no email associated with my account.
        dang 6y ago
        There are many other ways to establish that someone owns an account. "Trying to get you guys" to do something that we've explained in the FAQ that we don't do and why, is off topic, and repeatedly posting the same complaints and false claims in the threads is trolling. Please knock it off. If you don't like how HN works, you needn't use it. It's just an internet forum.
        viklove 6y ago

by hu3 6y ago

viklove 6y ago

I disagree. I think HN is good in some ways, but awful in many other ways so much so that it overshadows the good. Unfortunately the good can trick honest people like yourself into thinking the platform as a whole is good, but hey, you're entitled to your opinion.

AnimalMuppet 6y ago
Neither dang nor hu3 went over to your place, pointed a gun at your head, and forced to to hang out on a website you hate. If you think HN is awful in so many ways, vote with your feet. Go somewhere you like better. Why hang out here to complain about here?
- viklove 6y ago
  Because I have bad impulse control, and dang won't let me delete my account :) Apparently once you sign up for HN they have the right to keep your soul locked up here forever. I've asked for them to delete my account or permaban me for over a year, but users just don't have rights here and that's just the mentality that dang has always had.
  - hu3 6y ago
    I'm guessing this doesn't apply to HN jurisdiction? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right_to_be_forgotten https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right_to_be_forgotten
  - dang 6y ago
    https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26561884 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26561884
    - viklove 6y ago
      https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23008642 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23008642 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22892517 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22892517 How about you guys just implement an account deletion button and treat your users like actual people?
      - dang 6y ago
        > Even if you send them an email, apparently they're "too backed up" to handle account deletion requests I've searched and found no record of you emailing us. Did you mention the account name? We process these requests literally every day, so I'm not sure what you're trying to achieve with these claims.
        viklove 6y ago
        I think it's pretty clear what I'm trying to achieve. I'm trying to get you guys to implement an account deletion button in user settings like you should have. I should not have to expose my personal email by contacting you in order to do so. How would you even know the request was legit? I have no email associated with my account.
        dang 6y ago
        There are many other ways to establish that someone owns an account. "Trying to get you guys" to do something that we've explained in the FAQ that we don't do and why, is off topic, and repeatedly posting the same complaints and false claims in the threads is trolling. Please knock it off. If you don't like how HN works, you needn't use it. It's just an internet forum.
        viklove 6y ago