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“But they are so close to FSD.” What are people going to think? People will take what they think is a small risk. “Major improvements are being made to the v

“But they are so close to FSD.” What are people going to think? People will take what they think is a small risk. “Major improvements are being made to the vision stack every week. Beta button hopefully next month. This is a “march of 9’s” trying to get probability of no injury above 99.999999% of miles for city driving. Production Autopilot is already above that for highway driving. 6:17 PM · Apr 14, 2021” UPDATE To be clear, I obviously understand they are not close to FSD. I’m trying to get people to understand how many in the general public will view this.

bsamuels 6y ago
Tesla's FSD is a complete fraud. Musk has been saying it's less than a year away since 2018 https://youtu.be/antLneVlxcs?t=639 https://youtu.be/antLneVlxcs?t=639 https://youtu.be/antLneVlxcs?t=725 https://youtu.be/antLneVlxcs?t=725 https://youtu.be/antLneVlxcs?t=489 https://youtu.be/antLneVlxcs?t=489 https://youtu.be/antLneVlxcs?t=582 https://youtu.be/antLneVlxcs?t=582
- jcranmer 6y ago
  > since 2018 At least 2016, actually.
bob33212 6y ago
Lets say that somehow the only thing these people knew about a Tesla was that tweet and they bought a Tesla based off of that Tweet and someone else enabled autosteer (beta), which is off by default on a new Tesla. And some how they buckled in the driver's seatbelt and put a weight on the seat accidently, not because they were trying to circumvent Tesla safety features. They would still be in a situation where they knew that there was a chance that the could be injured by relying only on autopilot. No one should expect autopilot to be perfect and if they value their safety they should pay attention at all times just like the Tesla UI tells you when you enable autopilot and while you are driving.
- melling 6y ago
  We’re told Coronavirus vaccines are something like 94% effective We’re also told FSD is 99.999% effective and getting better fast There are those in the general public who will take that to mean that it’s safer than they should
salil999 6y ago
> But they are so close to FSD. No, they are not. I own a Tesla with the FSD package and I've seen many of the videos with FSD beta. FSD is definitely a remarkable technology but they are nowhere near close to FSD.

bsamuels 6y ago

Tesla's FSD is a complete fraud. Musk has been saying it's less than a year away since 2018 https://youtu.be/antLneVlxcs?t=639 https://youtu.be/antLneVlxcs?t=639 https://youtu.be/antLneVlxcs?t=725 https://youtu.be/antLneVlxcs?t=725 https://youtu.be/antLneVlxcs?t=489 https://youtu.be/antLneVlxcs?t=489 https://youtu.be/antLneVlxcs?t=582 https://youtu.be/antLneVlxcs?t=582

jcranmer 6y ago
> since 2018 At least 2016, actually.

bob33212 6y ago

Lets say that somehow the only thing these people knew about a Tesla was that tweet and they bought a Tesla based off of that Tweet and someone else enabled autosteer (beta), which is off by default on a new Tesla. And some how they buckled in the driver's seatbelt and put a weight on the seat accidently, not because they were trying to circumvent Tesla safety features. They would still be in a situation where they knew that there was a chance that the could be injured by relying only on autopilot. No one should expect autopilot to be perfect and if they value their safety they should pay attention at all times just like the Tesla UI tells you when you enable autopilot and while you are driving.

melling 6y ago
We’re told Coronavirus vaccines are something like 94% effective We’re also told FSD is 99.999% effective and getting better fast There are those in the general public who will take that to mean that it’s safer than they should

salil999 6y ago

> But they are so close to FSD. No, they are not. I own a Tesla with the FSD package and I've seen many of the videos with FSD beta. FSD is definitely a remarkable technology but they are nowhere near close to FSD.