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Anybody know of a good news source that doesn’t fall into this trap? I hear the economist is pretty good.

reedjosh 5y ago
Move to purely user funded media. One of my favorite yet least controversial is: https://congressionaldish.com/ https://congressionaldish.com/ But it's not hard to find user funded media for all manner of topics. Edit: Also https://reader.substack.com/inbox https://reader.substack.com/inbox
- wolverine876 5y ago
  Then the publication has to please its readers, not telling them news they don't want to hear. Imagine a user-funded source publishing negative news about the GameStop mob.
1cvmask 5y ago
The Economist has a history of lies and falsehoods by omission when it comes to foreign policy and international coverage. Anywhere from their Bolivia, Venezuela, Libya, Iraq, Honduras, Guatemala, Venezuela, Syria, Chile (the editor openly boasted of delivering the coup) and so much more. They are often a bit more nuanced compared to coup and regime change lovers like Fox, Washington Post, and the NY. Times.
- passivate 5y ago
  Can you explain more about the 'history of lies and falsehoods by omission'? I am not familiar with the specific articles about the countries you listed. Can you give a few examples? Ideally if we could compare/contrast articles with other outlets you think are more credible that would probably help!
  - 1cvmask 5y ago
    Here is a recent one on Bolivia. They mangled the textbook definition of a coup. Faux news would be proud: https://www.economist.com/leaders/2019/11/16/was-there-a-coup-in-bolivia https://www.economist.com/leaders/2019/11/16/was-there-a-cou... The funny thing is that you can be openly pro coup without resorting to lies. John Bolton and his crudeness will be missed. Although a Yale law graduate he refused to use sophistry of The Economist etc. for violent regime changes and attempts. John Bolton on a Fox TV interview talking the advantages of a coup in Venezuela and how to take over Venezuelan oil: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O_yHo9efvO8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O_yHo9efvO8 “We’re looking at the oil assets,” Bolton said. “That’s the single most important income stream to the government of Venezuela. We’re looking at what to do to that.” “We’re in conversation with major American companies now,” he continued. “I think we’re trying to get to the same end result here.” “It will make a big difference to the United States economically if we could have American oil companies really invest in and produce the oil capabilities in Venezuela,” Bolton admitted. https://thegrayzone.com/2019/01/29/us-coup-venezuela-oil-corporate-john-bolton/ https://thegrayzone.com/2019/01/29/us-coup-venezuela-oil-cor...

Move to purely user funded media. One of my favorite yet least controversial is: https://congressionaldish.com/ https://congressionaldish.com/ But it's not hard to find user funded media for all manner of topics. Edit: Also https://reader.substack.com/inbox https://reader.substack.com/inbox

wolverine876 5y ago
Then the publication has to please its readers, not telling them news they don't want to hear. Imagine a user-funded source publishing negative news about the GameStop mob.

1cvmask 5y ago

The Economist has a history of lies and falsehoods by omission when it comes to foreign policy and international coverage. Anywhere from their Bolivia, Venezuela, Libya, Iraq, Honduras, Guatemala, Venezuela, Syria, Chile (the editor openly boasted of delivering the coup) and so much more. They are often a bit more nuanced compared to coup and regime change lovers like Fox, Washington Post, and the NY. Times.

passivate 5y ago
Can you explain more about the 'history of lies and falsehoods by omission'? I am not familiar with the specific articles about the countries you listed. Can you give a few examples? Ideally if we could compare/contrast articles with other outlets you think are more credible that would probably help!
- 1cvmask 5y ago
  Here is a recent one on Bolivia. They mangled the textbook definition of a coup. Faux news would be proud: https://www.economist.com/leaders/2019/11/16/was-there-a-coup-in-bolivia https://www.economist.com/leaders/2019/11/16/was-there-a-cou... The funny thing is that you can be openly pro coup without resorting to lies. John Bolton and his crudeness will be missed. Although a Yale law graduate he refused to use sophistry of The Economist etc. for violent regime changes and attempts. John Bolton on a Fox TV interview talking the advantages of a coup in Venezuela and how to take over Venezuelan oil: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O_yHo9efvO8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O_yHo9efvO8 “We’re looking at the oil assets,” Bolton said. “That’s the single most important income stream to the government of Venezuela. We’re looking at what to do to that.” “We’re in conversation with major American companies now,” he continued. “I think we’re trying to get to the same end result here.” “It will make a big difference to the United States economically if we could have American oil companies really invest in and produce the oil capabilities in Venezuela,” Bolton admitted. https://thegrayzone.com/2019/01/29/us-coup-venezuela-oil-corporate-john-bolton/ https://thegrayzone.com/2019/01/29/us-coup-venezuela-oil-cor...