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I think it's telling that the user posted again at https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26862720 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26862720 without replying

I think it's telling that the user posted again at https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26862720 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26862720 without replying to your concerns.

roadbeats 6y ago
This is a landing page that tells no more than the purpose for a specific audience. If you feel like it's not what you want, you're not the audience. I collected extremely valuable feedback already thanks to these links. Have a great week.
- anigbrowl 6y ago
  It is very much what I want. But identifying wants - in only single words - without saying anything about how they will be met is not a good trade for my personal info. I am not asking for much.
  - roadbeats 6y ago
    Got it, you're hesitant to share your name and email and you're not forced for that. Instead of joining the private beta, you can just wait until it's public. Every project needs some early adopters. That's what I'm seeking here.
    - anigbrowl 6y ago
      You seem to be deliberately missing the point. I'd cheerfully give you my contact info and be an early adopter, but all you have shown is the contents page of a whitepaper. Introduction 3 Product Focus 3 Productivity 3 Redesign 3 Security 5 Privacy 6 Search 7 See it in action 7 Market 8 The Terrible Idea 8 The Bloody Market 8 The Fragile Giant 8 The Opportunity 9 The Audience 10 Strategy 10 Previous Strategy (Failure) 10 Next Strategy 10 Growth 11 A. Search 11 B. Privacy 11 C. Request access 11 D. Request access 11 E. Security 11 F. Request access 12 Revenue 12 Model 1. Request access 12 Model 2. Request access 12 Model 3. Request access 13 Model 4. Delay 13 Development Progress 13 Team 13 Venture Status 14 These are just buzzwords. In the time you've taken replying in this thread, you could have written three or four sentences summarizing what your product will do differently. If you care so much about my privacy and security, what exactly are you offering in return for my contact information? It's like if I offer you Luxury, precision, style, value. NewThing is the product for high achievers who demand the best. Apply now for exclusive preview and priority access. I too can conjure up a list of desirable qualities and leverage FOMO. Make me a value proposition instead of trying to leverage my emotions alone.
      - roadbeats 6y ago
        I don't want your personal information, you're not in the audience I target, and that's ok.
        anigbrowl 6y ago
        That's some impressive circular logic. I guess this product must be really good looking since it's so hard to see.
        dang 5y ago
        Please don't pile on. You had a good original point to make but you didn't have to be so aggressive, and certainly you shouldn't have turned nasty, even if you don't agree with how someone is approaching their project. I realize that you were trying to be helpful but this isn't helpful.
        ChrisGranger 6y ago
        So the audience you target is people who want a privacy-focused web browser, yet freely give their personal information to people who claim to not want their personal information?

I think it's telling that the user posted again at https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26862720 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26862720 without replying to your concerns.

roadbeats 6y ago

This is a landing page that tells no more than the purpose for a specific audience. If you feel like it's not what you want, you're not the audience. I collected extremely valuable feedback already thanks to these links. Have a great week.

anigbrowl 6y ago
It is very much what I want. But identifying wants - in only single words - without saying anything about how they will be met is not a good trade for my personal info. I am not asking for much.
- roadbeats 6y ago
  Got it, you're hesitant to share your name and email and you're not forced for that. Instead of joining the private beta, you can just wait until it's public. Every project needs some early adopters. That's what I'm seeking here.
  - anigbrowl 6y ago
    You seem to be deliberately missing the point. I'd cheerfully give you my contact info and be an early adopter, but all you have shown is the contents page of a whitepaper. Introduction 3 Product Focus 3 Productivity 3 Redesign 3 Security 5 Privacy 6 Search 7 See it in action 7 Market 8 The Terrible Idea 8 The Bloody Market 8 The Fragile Giant 8 The Opportunity 9 The Audience 10 Strategy 10 Previous Strategy (Failure) 10 Next Strategy 10 Growth 11 A. Search 11 B. Privacy 11 C. Request access 11 D. Request access 11 E. Security 11 F. Request access 12 Revenue 12 Model 1. Request access 12 Model 2. Request access 12 Model 3. Request access 13 Model 4. Delay 13 Development Progress 13 Team 13 Venture Status 14 These are just buzzwords. In the time you've taken replying in this thread, you could have written three or four sentences summarizing what your product will do differently. If you care so much about my privacy and security, what exactly are you offering in return for my contact information? It's like if I offer you Luxury, precision, style, value. NewThing is the product for high achievers who demand the best. Apply now for exclusive preview and priority access. I too can conjure up a list of desirable qualities and leverage FOMO. Make me a value proposition instead of trying to leverage my emotions alone.
    - roadbeats 6y ago
      I don't want your personal information, you're not in the audience I target, and that's ok.
      - anigbrowl 6y ago
        That's some impressive circular logic. I guess this product must be really good looking since it's so hard to see.
        dang 5y ago
        Please don't pile on. You had a good original point to make but you didn't have to be so aggressive, and certainly you shouldn't have turned nasty, even if you don't agree with how someone is approaching their project. I realize that you were trying to be helpful but this isn't helpful.
      - ChrisGranger 6y ago
        So the audience you target is people who want a privacy-focused web browser, yet freely give their personal information to people who claim to not want their personal information?