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Aside from the obvious ones, whose debate is polarized, there are some that would actually make things harder to understand (especially if one didn't know this

Aside from the obvious ones, whose debate is polarized, there are some that would actually make things harder to understand (especially if one didn't know this list existed) I assume this is for writing documentation/code for Google products, so if internal only, then I guess everyone is on-board and would get used to it. If it is for external consumption as well, then it potentially just make things harder to grok. A "full-featured client" is not the same as a "fat client" to me. "opaque-box" when reading would make me stop, think 'oh, do I need to look that up?' then realise it just means that it is blackbox and I should just not bother with it. Reminds me of those people who like to use much longer and fancy words for something that does not need it.

mschuster91 6y ago
> If it is for external consumption as well, then it potentially just make things harder to grok. On the other side, what megacorps such as Google or Facebook adopt influences everyone else. While some of the terms on this list tend to be a bit nit-picky, it's not a bad thing to replace stuff such as master/slave or blacklist/whitelist... and having big-name influencers commit to that is a huge step forward. From a political view: ideally this whole debate should have been done in the open, in democratic discourse, but unfortunately Congress has been gridlocked for the most part of the last decades, and mass media these days more serves to outrage and click-baiting (for the sake of ad money) instead of hosting civilized debate.
- bennyp101 6y ago
  I have zero problem with "master/slave or blacklist/whitelist.." stuff, I just didn't mention it because everyone has their own view, and had been discussed to the nth. "megacorps such as Google or Facebook adopt influences everyone else" I don't really agree with this, they try and push their own agenda, but ultimately the community decides what it wants to do
- pseudalopex 6y ago
  You think Congress should compel using certain terms?
  - mschuster91 6y ago
    Congress could certainly mandate that linguistic history (= how language is formed, including the history and connotations of words such as master/slave) or anti-discrimination lessons be taught in schools.

mschuster91 6y ago

> If it is for external consumption as well, then it potentially just make things harder to grok. On the other side, what megacorps such as Google or Facebook adopt influences everyone else. While some of the terms on this list tend to be a bit nit-picky, it's not a bad thing to replace stuff such as master/slave or blacklist/whitelist... and having big-name influencers commit to that is a huge step forward. From a political view: ideally this whole debate should have been done in the open, in democratic discourse, but unfortunately Congress has been gridlocked for the most part of the last decades, and mass media these days more serves to outrage and click-baiting (for the sake of ad money) instead of hosting civilized debate.

bennyp101 6y ago
I have zero problem with "master/slave or blacklist/whitelist.." stuff, I just didn't mention it because everyone has their own view, and had been discussed to the nth. "megacorps such as Google or Facebook adopt influences everyone else" I don't really agree with this, they try and push their own agenda, but ultimately the community decides what it wants to do
pseudalopex 6y ago
You think Congress should compel using certain terms?
- mschuster91 6y ago
  Congress could certainly mandate that linguistic history (= how language is formed, including the history and connotations of words such as master/slave) or anti-discrimination lessons be taught in schools.