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Sadly, I’ve had to stick with Intel, even with the performance penalty. Why? The massive AMD core counts were killing us on licensing costs. Until we can renego
by atdrummond 6y ago
Sadly, I’ve had to stick with Intel, even with the performance penalty. Why? The massive AMD core counts were killing us on licensing costs. Until we can renegotiate our contracts, we remain an Intel shop.
- skavi 6y agoIIRC AMD offers high frequency lower core count SKUs. Would those not work for your situation?
- abestic9 6y agoThe 72F3 was made almost specifically for this use case, though it's comparable (and may even fall behind per-core) to the Xeon 8356H.
- atdrummond 6y agoThat was my preference but we honestly had trouble with our first order of them (delivery kept slipping) for testing and then our preferred vendors struggled to get sufficient inventory. My hope is to get the contracts reworked in such a way that I’m not paying more for less if I go AMD with the next procurement.
- Qub3d 6y ago100%. I wish you luck in the midst of this chip shortage!
- dvfjsdhgfv 6y agoIt looks like your vendor is not keeping up with the times.
- merb 6y agoit doesn't specifically we are a dell shop and they always priced their amd epyc server's higher. I'm not sure why, maybe they also added their board design development costs on top, where as intel they have more knowledge, so it's cheaper? no clue, but sometimes it's really wierd that we get really good prices for intel, but not for amd.
- zibzab 6y agoThat is the cost of sticking to a single vendor.
- distances 6y agoLook up how Dell deals with AMD. Just the other day there was a discussion how Alienware (Dell) is misconfiguring and downplaying their own AMD desktop systems. You'll also be hard pressed to find a high-specced AMD laptop from Dell, and their best AMD machines are well hidden on their own website. Dell is definitely antagonistic towards AMD.
- jdsully 6y agoThey did a ton of design work during the original Opteron days when it was performance king, only to have it be wasted as AMD flubbed the next gen and circled the drain for 10 years. Vendors are noticeably cautious this time around, but the longer AMD maintains the crown the more system integrators are starting to invest. Nobody is trying to actively harm AMD - they've just been burned once before.
- distances 6y agoTo be clear, I don't think they are trying to actively harm AMD. It sure seems like they have a better deal with Intel though, and actively try to sell those. There's few other explanations for self-sabotaging the AMD configurations they already have in the selection.
- dvfjsdhgfv 6y agoIsn't agility the key these days? I know very few people who purchase Intel these days if they have a choice. If they can't buy it from one vendor, they go to another one.
- ur-whale 6y agoTime to switch to another software stack.
- zibzab 6y agoI suspect this is about oracle. Not an easy migration of you are deep in their ecosystem.
- ChuckNorris89 6y agoWait, what?! I thought the license/core was a thing in the UNIX/NT days, when running more then one core/system meant you were doing serious mainframe/datacenter business, but you're telling me this is still a thing now in the days when a smartphone has 8 cores?
- blandflakes 6y agoI wish I could recall which software service this was, but when I was handling infra for a small biotech startup a lot of price evals for metrics or CI/CD tools would still penalize us for core counts.