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That's a stupid phrase. I can think of many cases where there was not a fuckup yet vehicles collide. Example: someone has some kind of acute medical issue ha

That's a stupid phrase. I can think of many cases where there was not a fuckup yet vehicles collide. Example: someone has some kind of acute medical issue happen (maybe a seizure) and crashes. Or maybe there is black ice that you cant see. Maybe a truck flings a tiny rock it couldnt see in time into the windshield of a car behind it. It is really easy to come up with examples like this.

pdpi 5y ago
> Or maybe there is black ice that you cant see This deserves expanding upon. You’d rightly assume people who live in cold places know to look for ice on the road. The only traffic accident my ex was involved in was also the only time I ever saw ice on the road in Lisbon, in 30 years of living there. We saw a pileup, she barely touched the breaks, and we entered a skid. Ended up bumping against a car in the pileup (at pretty low speed so it was harmless). Still — freak accidents do happen.
jjav 5y ago
> I can think of many cases where there was not a fuckup yet vehicles collide. And yet the examples are extreme cases, which while do happen, are very rarely the cause of crashes. The vast majority of crashes is not because someone had a seizure, it's because they weren't paying attention or were incompetent.
- dbsmith83 5y ago
  Right, but if you actually read the parent comment you will notice that "_always_" was used and even emphasized, along with "there are no accidents", and the only example provided of a non-accident is a non-car crash example of a meteorite. My examples are much more plausible, and the list goes on. I came up with those examples in like 5 seconds. The point is that there are lots of cases where it truly was an accident. > "There are no accidents, there are only fuckups. Maybe getting hit by an asteroid would be an accident - but hitting or getting hit by another vehicle, or driving into the scenery, is _always_ a fuckup on somebody's part, not an accident."

pdpi 5y ago

> Or maybe there is black ice that you cant see This deserves expanding upon. You’d rightly assume people who live in cold places know to look for ice on the road. The only traffic accident my ex was involved in was also the only time I ever saw ice on the road in Lisbon, in 30 years of living there. We saw a pileup, she barely touched the breaks, and we entered a skid. Ended up bumping against a car in the pileup (at pretty low speed so it was harmless). Still — freak accidents do happen.

jjav 5y ago

> I can think of many cases where there was not a fuckup yet vehicles collide. And yet the examples are extreme cases, which while do happen, are very rarely the cause of crashes. The vast majority of crashes is not because someone had a seizure, it's because they weren't paying attention or were incompetent.

dbsmith83 5y ago
Right, but if you actually read the parent comment you will notice that "_always_" was used and even emphasized, along with "there are no accidents", and the only example provided of a non-accident is a non-car crash example of a meteorite. My examples are much more plausible, and the list goes on. I came up with those examples in like 5 seconds. The point is that there are lots of cases where it truly was an accident. > "There are no accidents, there are only fuckups. Maybe getting hit by an asteroid would be an accident - but hitting or getting hit by another vehicle, or driving into the scenery, is _always_ a fuckup on somebody's part, not an accident."