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> outsourced to China previously wrote off all these risks as unimportant and later cried foul when their IP was stolen Give me one concrete example from a rep

> outsourced to China previously wrote off all these risks as unimportant and later cried foul when their IP was stolen Give me one concrete example from a reputable source. I'll PayPal you $20 (gift option) look my profile to get my contact information.

kube-system 6y ago
I’m not exactly sure what you’re challenging, or what is controversial about my statement. Counterfeiting and IP theft is a approaching (if not already, by some estimates) a trillion dollar industry. A lot of it is something as simply as “third shift/ghost shift” products, rejected manufacturing samples, QA rejects being sold out the back door, etc. If you want some articles about supply chain risk management in China, I’m sure I can dig some up.
- justicezyx 6y ago
  I do not challenge. I ask for a concrete example from reputable source. If I trust online content. I might as well believe Trump is right about calling Chinese virus.
  - kube-system 6y ago
    Would you believe the words of Jack Ma himself? "The problem is that the fake products today, they have better quality,a better price than the real product, than the real names," Ma said in a speech at Alibaba's investors day in the southern Chinese city of Hangzhou on Tuesday. "They're the same exact factories, the same exact raw materials, but they do not use that (brand) name," he added. https://sg.style.yahoo.com/style/french-hit-alibaba-founder-over-counterfeit-comments-174732374--finance.html https://sg.style.yahoo.com/style/french-hit-alibaba-founder-... Or maybe, a study from MIT, with a couple specific examples and a number of links to more detail? https://sloanreview.mit.edu/article/protecting-intellectual-property-in-china/ https://sloanreview.mit.edu/article/protecting-intellectual-...
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MagnumOpus 6y ago
User kube-system delivered concrete examples from reputable sources further down the thread. Could you now please post concrete proof of having sent your paypal gift?
- kube-system 6y ago
  I don’t want anyone’s money. I’m just here for discussion.

kube-system 6y ago

I’m not exactly sure what you’re challenging, or what is controversial about my statement. Counterfeiting and IP theft is a approaching (if not already, by some estimates) a trillion dollar industry. A lot of it is something as simply as “third shift/ghost shift” products, rejected manufacturing samples, QA rejects being sold out the back door, etc. If you want some articles about supply chain risk management in China, I’m sure I can dig some up.

justicezyx 6y ago
I do not challenge. I ask for a concrete example from reputable source. If I trust online content. I might as well believe Trump is right about calling Chinese virus.
- kube-system 6y ago
  Would you believe the words of Jack Ma himself? "The problem is that the fake products today, they have better quality,a better price than the real product, than the real names," Ma said in a speech at Alibaba's investors day in the southern Chinese city of Hangzhou on Tuesday. "They're the same exact factories, the same exact raw materials, but they do not use that (brand) name," he added. https://sg.style.yahoo.com/style/french-hit-alibaba-founder-over-counterfeit-comments-174732374--finance.html https://sg.style.yahoo.com/style/french-hit-alibaba-founder-... Or maybe, a study from MIT, with a couple specific examples and a number of links to more detail? https://sloanreview.mit.edu/article/protecting-intellectual-property-in-china/ https://sloanreview.mit.edu/article/protecting-intellectual-...
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MagnumOpus 6y ago

User kube-system delivered concrete examples from reputable sources further down the thread. Could you now please post concrete proof of having sent your paypal gift?

kube-system 6y ago
I don’t want anyone’s money. I’m just here for discussion.