> In any language, not just Python. A type that isn't already built-in has to be defined in your code no matter what language you are using. Yeah exactly! So i

> In any language, not just Python. A type that isn't already built-in has to be defined in your code no matter what language you are using. Yeah exactly! So it's the same for every language. I just don't understand why you then say that I would have to type more in a statically typed language. > I doubt you would have this feeling if you knew how many times I have tried "a modern fully fledged IDE with a good statically typed language". And every time has ended up the same. Everyone is different and that's one reason why people choose different tools and languages. Nothing wrong with this - one of the best developers that I know uses vim for everything. I on the other hand would not be productive without a good IDE. > But the original claim that I responded to was "Everyone needs types" (by which was meant "everyone needs static typing"). It is that blanket, general claim that static typing is always better that I was disputing Fair enough, I agree with you on that one. The thing I disagree with is that is static typing requires (always) more effort when writing code. For Java this is totally true, but for many other languages, my experience is that I neither have to type more nor that I have to think more.