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You can train all you want but unless you have a burning EV right in front of you, all training is only theoretical. Practice makes perfect and no fire departm

by foepys 6y ago

You can train all you want but unless you have a burning EV right in front of you, all training is only theoretical. Practice makes perfect and no fire department will set a Li-Ion car battery on fire just to demonstrate what happens.

walshemj 6y ago
Up to a point - but knowing you don't pump water onto a battery fire should not be an issue.
- maxerickson 6y ago
  There's been comments here for hours linking to multiple official sources that say exactly to pump water onto the battery fire. There's not that much lithium and there is lots and lots of heat.
- heavyset_go 6y ago
  That's literally what's needed to stop thermal runaway.
gugagore 6y ago
This is really not good safety culture. I'm sure it's not the same experience when a pilot practices emergency procedures in a simulator vs in a real emergency, but it's still helpful. Your point is maybe that the simulation is bad. But I think it can be helpful nonetheless. Even if the simulation is "you have a battery fire in front of you. Tell me what you would do?"
- heavyset_go 6y ago
  > This is really not good safety culture. I'm sure it's not the same experience when a pilot practices emergency procedures in a simulator vs in a real emergency, but it's still helpful. If this is really a priority, then make it a priority. Start paying firefighters like cops are paid, and fund the fire department like the police department is funded. In many places, fire departments are entirely voluntary while police departments are funded to the tune of tens to hundreds of millions of dollars each year. In several places I've lived, the only way fire departments would get that training is if someone donated a bunch of EV batteries to be destroyed by them.
guerrilla 6y ago
> no fire department will set a Li-Ion car battery on fire just to demonstrate what happens Why not? That's exactly what they do with ICBs and houses to train here.

by foepys 6y ago

walshemj 6y ago

Up to a point - but knowing you don't pump water onto a battery fire should not be an issue.

maxerickson 6y ago
There's been comments here for hours linking to multiple official sources that say exactly to pump water onto the battery fire. There's not that much lithium and there is lots and lots of heat.
heavyset_go 6y ago
That's literally what's needed to stop thermal runaway.

gugagore 6y ago

This is really not good safety culture. I'm sure it's not the same experience when a pilot practices emergency procedures in a simulator vs in a real emergency, but it's still helpful. Your point is maybe that the simulation is bad. But I think it can be helpful nonetheless. Even if the simulation is "you have a battery fire in front of you. Tell me what you would do?"

heavyset_go 6y ago
> This is really not good safety culture. I'm sure it's not the same experience when a pilot practices emergency procedures in a simulator vs in a real emergency, but it's still helpful. If this is really a priority, then make it a priority. Start paying firefighters like cops are paid, and fund the fire department like the police department is funded. In many places, fire departments are entirely voluntary while police departments are funded to the tune of tens to hundreds of millions of dollars each year. In several places I've lived, the only way fire departments would get that training is if someone donated a bunch of EV batteries to be destroyed by them.

guerrilla 6y ago

> no fire department will set a Li-Ion car battery on fire just to demonstrate what happens Why not? That's exactly what they do with ICBs and houses to train here.