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Because autopilot has nothing to do with the crash. You're supposed to pay attention and take over at any time. Why does anyone drive any car when the manufact

by xxpor 6y ago

Because autopilot has nothing to do with the crash. You're supposed to pay attention and take over at any time. Why does anyone drive any car when the manufacturer isn't liable for mechanical failures that could cause a crash? I'm much more worried about a suspension part failing and my wheel flying off than autopilot doing something dumb.

Hypocritelefty 6y ago
Where does tesla find clowns like you? Lol
stretchwithme 6y ago
Gotta treat it like cruise control.
DalasNoin 6y ago
They behaved irresponsible, but Tesla could really use actual driver attention monitoring. It should not be possible to have no one sitting in the driving seat. They seem to have a broken attention monitoring system that is easily tricked.
- d4l3k 6y ago
  They are working on a camera based solution though it's imperfect. You can see examples of it running at https://twitter.com/greentheonly/status/1379928419136339969 https://twitter.com/greentheonly/status/1379928419136339969
- xxpor 6y ago
  Yeah I generally agree with this. Forget the camera stuff the other commenter mentioned, the seats have a weight sensor already for other stuff like making sure you don't get out of the car when it's not in park. I can't believe AP doesn't use that, unless the owner here bypassed that by shorting the circuit or something.
bobsomers 6y ago
> Why does anyone drive any car when the manufacturer isn't liable for mechanical failures that could cause a crash? Manufacturers absolutely are liable if there is a design problem. This is the entire reason recalls exist. One could certainly argue that Tesla's laissez faire attitude toward autopilot safety constitutes a systems engineering design failure, making it grounds for a recall.
- xxpor 6y ago
  They're not liable when the componets are used outside of their reasonable limits. You don't see recalls for shocks that fail after 200,000 miles, and leaving the driver's seat entirely should fall under that bucket too.
fma 6y ago
>when the manufacturer isn't liable for mechanical failures that could cause a crash uhm. Ever heard of the GM ignition switch defect? Ford Pinto? I'm sure there's more where a manufacturer is liable for mechanical failures that cause a crash.
- xxpor 6y ago
  Completely different situation. That doesn't involve the consumer not following instructions.

by xxpor 6y ago

Hypocritelefty 6y ago

Where does tesla find clowns like you? Lol

stretchwithme 6y ago

Gotta treat it like cruise control.

DalasNoin 6y ago

They behaved irresponsible, but Tesla could really use actual driver attention monitoring. It should not be possible to have no one sitting in the driving seat. They seem to have a broken attention monitoring system that is easily tricked.

d4l3k 6y ago
They are working on a camera based solution though it's imperfect. You can see examples of it running at https://twitter.com/greentheonly/status/1379928419136339969 https://twitter.com/greentheonly/status/1379928419136339969
xxpor 6y ago
Yeah I generally agree with this. Forget the camera stuff the other commenter mentioned, the seats have a weight sensor already for other stuff like making sure you don't get out of the car when it's not in park. I can't believe AP doesn't use that, unless the owner here bypassed that by shorting the circuit or something.

bobsomers 6y ago

> Why does anyone drive any car when the manufacturer isn't liable for mechanical failures that could cause a crash? Manufacturers absolutely are liable if there is a design problem. This is the entire reason recalls exist. One could certainly argue that Tesla's laissez faire attitude toward autopilot safety constitutes a systems engineering design failure, making it grounds for a recall.

xxpor 6y ago
They're not liable when the componets are used outside of their reasonable limits. You don't see recalls for shocks that fail after 200,000 miles, and leaving the driver's seat entirely should fall under that bucket too.

fma 6y ago

>when the manufacturer isn't liable for mechanical failures that could cause a crash uhm. Ever heard of the GM ignition switch defect? Ford Pinto? I'm sure there's more where a manufacturer is liable for mechanical failures that cause a crash.

xxpor 6y ago
Completely different situation. That doesn't involve the consumer not following instructions.