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Statement by UEFA, FA, Premier League, RFEF, LaLiga, FIGC and Lega Serie A
- TruthWillHurt 5y agoMate this is HN. We're A/V club not ball chasers.
- twic 5y agoYeah but we're experts on everything.
- ullevaal 5y agoI think this is interesting in a Moneyball / Fivethirtyeight / global ambitions of warring business interests kind of way.
- mhh__ 5y agoWhat's wrong with liking football, though? This is still interesting either way, sporting or business.
- himujjal 5y agoHN is super offtopic at times. Political issues are regularly discussed here despite the fact that there was 0 tech in it. At first I too disliked this, then realized, whatever! I have to filter things for myself.
- TruthWillHurt 5y agoSheesh forgot many entrepreneu-bros moved to HN from LinkedIn.. will restrict my nerd-oriented comments to devrant.
- yinzer-solomon 5y agoStereotypes aside, some of us were/are both.
- IG_Semmelweiss 5y agoThe NFL cartel is dead serious about breaking up the UEFA (and its federations) local monopolies. I think it is brilliant to introduce more competition into the mix, but i also fear this will have the outcome to create 2 parallel tournaments and thus, take money out of the merit based system... into the franchise system. I fear the goal of this initiative is to derisk sport ownership by private funds. This is a serious play at business oriented takeover of sports
- cyrksoft 5y agoThe franchise system is horrible for sports. There is no benefit and punishment for teams, other than winning. This might work in small competitions like NFL, NBA, MLB, etc. In European football it will only create parallel tournaments with teams participating without merit (Arsenal, for ex, hasn't qualified for the last 4 Champion Leagues if I recall correctly). It makes no sense other than making more money. It will destroy smaller teams that already receive almost nothing in most leagues (Spain, for ex). If they do it I will stop watching altogether, and I beet I'm not alone.
- lavp 5y agoIt also doesn’t strike me as a sustainable model. Part of what makes European football so special is the rarity of the fixtures. While I don’t have hope that UEFA or FIFA will successfully kill off the Super League, I have optimism that the players will. By the looks of it, it’s going to be up to them to unionize and prevent this from happening.
- madspindel 5y agoNFL cartel? What's that? NFL as in American football (not soccer)?
- IG_Semmelweiss 5y agoYes. The NFL is only 1 example. The MLS, and MLB operate on a cartel basis. In baseball, american football, soccer, basketball, one can never start a neighborhood team and make it to the pros, no matter how good the team it s. Only the franchises are allowed in, and once in , you are in as long as you pay your dues. In the rest of the world, soccer is strictly merit based. You only stay pro as long as you can cut it.
- mhh__ 5y agoThe idea of teams who aren't even good enough to be in the champions League on merit at the moment breaking away is a kick in the teeth. Especially jarring coming from Liverpool.
- calabroa 5y agoNo relegation, no qualifying for tournaments, what’s the point...
- thysultan 5y ago>Grabs popcorn
- ralph84 5y agolol @ FIFA trying to position themselves as the moral high ground
- comodore_ 5y ago> will remain united in our efforts to stop this cynical project, a project that is founded on the self-interest of a few clubs at a time when society needs solidarity more than ever. Oh come on, the audacity, amazing. You can replace this with the pointing spiderman meme.
- parthdesai 5y agoI think you're completely off the mark here. Currently to qualify for CL, you either have to win the CL or have to do well in domestic league (finish in top 4,3,2 or 1 depending on the league). So in a way, you've to earn the right to play in CL. With ESL, it essentially becomes a North American sports competition, where same set of teams compete every year.
- Kyro38 5y agoI wouldn't mind a kick in the nuts of the UEFA. I'll get my popcorn.
- LetThereBeLight 5y agoI think it is a shame that the 50+1 rule (which states that at least 50% of the team's voting rights must be held by club members) is only instituted in the German League. I don't think any fans actually want this super league to happen.
- unpopularopp 5y agoYet it led to the least competitve major league. 17 teams feeding Bayern, not really fun
- gizajob 5y agoPlease, in the name of all that is holy, lets keep football news off HN. If the breakaway league was proposing to run on bitcoin with players contracts based on Etherium and club ownership distributed as NFT smartbeans, then maybe it would be justified, but I come here to be free of the inanity of the world of football. Regards KingLennon, Liverpool, UK
- onlyfortoday2 5y agoI agree this has nothing to do with tech IN THE SLIGHTEST
- PhantomGremlin 5y agoStrongly agree. Maybe okay to discuss the Super Bowl or World Cup final or some similar major sports event. Maybe. But instead, this particular submission appears to simply highlight cynical maneuvering and posturing by billionaires and corrupt special interests. On all sides. Edit: someone flagged it. Good. I didn't, but I'm glad to see that others also feel strongly against this submission.
- joe463369 5y agoI have to disagree - the Patriots winning the Superbowl or Brazil winning the World Cup are not events that "gratify one's intellectual curiosity." A tussle between the Premier League and the leading football clubs in England is fascinating for a number of reasons. People in this country love football and this proposal raises an important question - to what degree should governments intervene when the free market is working against the preferences of the electorate.
- joe463369 5y agoI'm entirely against submissions along the lines of "Real Madrid win unprecedented 14th Champions League" but this proposal has some interesting facets that I think some HNers might find intellectually interesting. There's a lot of broadly applicable questions here about the extent to which governments should interfere in the free market for the common good.
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- nindalf 5y agoGary Neville, former Manchester United player and current TV commentator put it really well. He loves his club, loves English football and yet he tore into these clubs for this cynical, cowardly move. > I’ve benefitted from football hugely, I’ve made money out of football, I invest money to a football club. I’m not against money in football, but the principles and ethos of fair competition are part of the game so if Leicester win the league they go into the Champions League. > Manchester United aren’t even in the Champions League. Arsenal aren’t in the Champions League, you watched them earlier today and they were a shambles of a football club at the moment. > Tottenham aren’t in the Champions League and they want a god-given right to be in there? It’s an absolute joke and the time has come now for an independent regulator to stop these clubs having a power base. Enough is enough. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GP05EDm9EB8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GP05EDm9EB8
- IG_Semmelweiss 5y agoDoes someone know why this article is flagged ? Genuinely curious on how it is breaking rules.
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- sys_64738 5y agoThis is European soccer by the looks of it.