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Money. Australia is heavily influenced by Chinese policy, look at their stance on privacy / encryption / etc. Eventually this will percolate to the rest of the

Money. Australia is heavily influenced by Chinese policy, look at their stance on privacy / encryption / etc. Eventually this will percolate to the rest of the world. It will take decades but I’m sure it will happen. Younger generations are already pro censorship. Chinas influence is strong enough to cause the AU PM to say stupid things: https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20170714/10385237789/aussie-prime-minister-says-laws-math-dont-apply-australia-when-it-comes-to-encryption.shtml https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20170714/10385237789/aussi...

somedangedname 5y ago
It's a real stretch to claim that the Aus govt's anti-encryption agenda originated in China. Especially since any penetration of encryption within Australia would likely be turned against foreign agents (including the Chinese). Also AFAIK we're still stuck in an unequal trade war with the PRC so they're not exactly flavour of the month around here.
FpUser 5y ago
That statement of AU PM is definitely worthy of retard. But why do you think it is caused by Chinese influence? From what I understand being able to have "master key" is a wet dream of every government without exception even if said government wants to have nothing to do with China.
mayama 5y ago
The next big destination many people have with respect to internet penetration is Africa. And CCP is ahead of west in capturing African market by working best with dictators and being competitive. For example they sold their telecom towers very cheap, and they work best with only chinese phones. With this cycle, china owns major share of African mobile business in just a few years. It would be easier to to get their IP in there.
- FpUser 5y ago
  >"And CCP is ahead of west in capturing African market by working best with dictators and being competitive" I guess the West should improve their track record on "working best with dictators".
  - bingbong70 5y ago
    Dictators aside, the Chinese are considered fairer trading partners than most (possibly all) western countries. ~1000 years of African history makes this point very clear.
    - linksnapzz 5y ago
      Certain lessons need to be re-learned the hard way.
      - bingbong70 5y ago
        Is there any infrastructure value added by western trade that rivals Chinese investments? My understanding is there isn't and western countries have had a lot longer to prove the opposite. The relationship is mostly extractive (not in a benevolent sense) where western countries are concerned. What's the Chinese-in-Africa equivalent of the CIA/MI6 wanting shiny rocks and orchestrating a genocide to secure them?
boomboomsubban 5y ago
>Chinas influence is strong enough to cause the AU PM to say stupid things: The PM is basically mirroring the position of the Five Eyes alliance of which Australia has been a member for longer than Communist China has existed.

somedangedname 5y ago

It's a real stretch to claim that the Aus govt's anti-encryption agenda originated in China. Especially since any penetration of encryption within Australia would likely be turned against foreign agents (including the Chinese). Also AFAIK we're still stuck in an unequal trade war with the PRC so they're not exactly flavour of the month around here.

FpUser 5y ago

That statement of AU PM is definitely worthy of retard. But why do you think it is caused by Chinese influence? From what I understand being able to have "master key" is a wet dream of every government without exception even if said government wants to have nothing to do with China.

mayama 5y ago

The next big destination many people have with respect to internet penetration is Africa. And CCP is ahead of west in capturing African market by working best with dictators and being competitive. For example they sold their telecom towers very cheap, and they work best with only chinese phones. With this cycle, china owns major share of African mobile business in just a few years. It would be easier to to get their IP in there.

FpUser 5y ago
>"And CCP is ahead of west in capturing African market by working best with dictators and being competitive" I guess the West should improve their track record on "working best with dictators".
- bingbong70 5y ago
  Dictators aside, the Chinese are considered fairer trading partners than most (possibly all) western countries. ~1000 years of African history makes this point very clear.
  - linksnapzz 5y ago
    Certain lessons need to be re-learned the hard way.
    - bingbong70 5y ago
      Is there any infrastructure value added by western trade that rivals Chinese investments? My understanding is there isn't and western countries have had a lot longer to prove the opposite. The relationship is mostly extractive (not in a benevolent sense) where western countries are concerned. What's the Chinese-in-Africa equivalent of the CIA/MI6 wanting shiny rocks and orchestrating a genocide to secure them?

boomboomsubban 5y ago

>Chinas influence is strong enough to cause the AU PM to say stupid things: The PM is basically mirroring the position of the Five Eyes alliance of which Australia has been a member for longer than Communist China has existed.