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Some "authorities" they are. Took me about 5 seconds to find the answer. Not one person thought to Google it?
by fallingknife 6y ago
Some "authorities" they are. Took me about 5 seconds to find the answer. Not one person thought to Google it?
- robin_reala 6y agoMaybe in a situation like that, going by the first search engine result isn’t the best idea?
- mikestew 6y agoI would expect professionals to have this information in cache. I’ve been driving a production BEV for ten years, this isn’t exactly new-fangled.
- fallingknife 6y agoBetter than going with the first result out of your head (pour water on it) which is what they did.
- camjohnson26 6y agoWhich turns out to be the right answer.
- jvolkman 6y agoThe first result for my query says "copious amounts of water are recommended as the best means to extinguish a high voltage vehicle fire." What did you find?
- fallingknife 6y agohttps://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&q=how+to+extinguish+a+lithium+battery+fire https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&q=how+to+...
- jvolkman 6y agoI'm guessing those strategies work well for phones but maybe not cars which are absolutely enormous amounts of battery and possibly wrapped around a tree at the time of the fire. Here's what FEMA has to say (https://www.usfa.fema.gov/training/coffee_break/061819.html https://www.usfa.fema.gov/training/coffee_break/061819.html) Secure a large, continuous and sustainable water supply — one or more fire hydrants or multiple water tenders. Use a large volume of water such as master stream, 2 1/2-inch or multiple 1 3/4-inch fire lines to suppress and cool the fire and the battery.
- NovemberWhiskey 6y agoRight. A fire extinguisher is a "first aid" response to a fire. The kind of advice that's relevant to fire extinguisher usage is predicated on a small fire; general advice is that any fire larger than a small trash can is too big to fight with an extinguisher. The fire department plays from a different rule book.
- maxerickson 6y agoSo it seems pretty possible that they followed the standard procedure and it didn't work?
- fallingknife 6y agoA lithium battery fire is considered a class B fire, so pouring water on it is not standard procedure. They should have known that in the first place, but if they had googled it, they would have found out very quickly anyway.
- maxerickson 6y agoTesla recommends spraying the battery with copious amounts of water. Read all about it: https://www.tesla.com/firstresponders https://www.tesla.com/firstresponders Lithium-ion is different than lithium… (my other comment is a question because I haven't seen any information about what procedures they did follow)
- fallingknife 6y agoMy point it is 1. firefighters should know this already 2. if they didn't they could have googled it like you just did instead of having to wait around to get in touch with someone from Tesla
- maxerickson 6y agoYes, my point is that a possible explanation for using 32,000 gallons and calling Tesla is that spraying 3,000 gallons on the battery did not successfully extinguish it.
- tzs 6y agoWhat you are overlooking is that the correct procedure as documented by Tesla, which is what the firefighters had been doing for four hours, did not stop the fire.
- exporectomy 6y ago