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> I guarantee you the vast majority of all hiring managers everywhere You're qualified to speak for a majority of hiring managers everywhere? Maybe you meant

> I guarantee you the vast majority of all hiring managers everywhere You're qualified to speak for a majority of hiring managers everywhere? Maybe you meant in a relatively small geographic area, in a relatively small number of companies? Maybe some of the same ones that colluded to keep salaries low by making illegal agreements amongst themselves? The problem with most discussions on this topic is that everyone thinks their own experience is universal. Incidentally, what you're assuming is that your internalized reality (of being allowed to resign at most twice per career) is real for everyone. It absolutely is not, which is why you're getting downvoted.

forgingahead 6y ago
You're qualified to speak for a majority of hiring managers everywhere? As I stated, feel free to place your counter-point in your resume next time you're looking at next steps. We are unlikely to cross paths in the professional world, but I would be happy to hear about your positive success in the job market with these statements prominently displayed. your internalized reality (of being allowed to resign at most twice per career) is real for everyone That is not what I stated so please don't misrepresent it. The discussion is about resigning or threatening to resign whenever you don't get your way in a company. The original comment stated: Boss: What's stopping you from doing this every time you don't get your way? Commenter: Nothing. That's how negotiating an employment relationship works. Holy shit. Again for context, the original story stated that the bonus was brought up but the criteria for receiving it was never officially documented or agreed upon. The bosses decided on 30%, and the poster felt entitled for more. He's certainly entitled to feel that, and he's certainly entitled to make his case for it. He's also certainly entitled to resign if he didn't get his way. But to threaten to resign if he didn't get it, and then resign anyway once he did get it, is just poor form. Like I said, he can do it, he did do it, the company can't and didn't claw it back after he resigned, it's now 15 years later, but this story does not portray the protagonist in a positive light for hiring again in the future.
- soulbadguy 6y ago
  > As I stated, feel free to place your counter-point in your resume next time you're looking at next steps. We are unlikely to cross paths in the professional world, but I would be happy to hear about your positive success in the job market with these statements prominently displayed. Which statements ? like saying on your resume "I quit my job because i didnt get the bonus i felt entitled to" ? This is hardly a good metric. Most people when reading a piece of information would have the tendency to assign blame to the party they do not identify with. The way to look at it, if you were to ask the employer to add to the job description "The last guy who this job quit he didn't get the bonus he felt entitled to" would equally deter job applicants. And second , some people can absolutely pool this off, depending on how valuable they are to the company.

forgingahead 6y ago

You're qualified to speak for a majority of hiring managers everywhere? As I stated, feel free to place your counter-point in your resume next time you're looking at next steps. We are unlikely to cross paths in the professional world, but I would be happy to hear about your positive success in the job market with these statements prominently displayed. your internalized reality (of being allowed to resign at most twice per career) is real for everyone That is not what I stated so please don't misrepresent it. The discussion is about resigning or threatening to resign whenever you don't get your way in a company. The original comment stated: Boss: What's stopping you from doing this every time you don't get your way? Commenter: Nothing. That's how negotiating an employment relationship works. Holy shit. Again for context, the original story stated that the bonus was brought up but the criteria for receiving it was never officially documented or agreed upon. The bosses decided on 30%, and the poster felt entitled for more. He's certainly entitled to feel that, and he's certainly entitled to make his case for it. He's also certainly entitled to resign if he didn't get his way. But to threaten to resign if he didn't get it, and then resign anyway once he did get it, is just poor form. Like I said, he can do it, he did do it, the company can't and didn't claw it back after he resigned, it's now 15 years later, but this story does not portray the protagonist in a positive light for hiring again in the future.

soulbadguy 6y ago
> As I stated, feel free to place your counter-point in your resume next time you're looking at next steps. We are unlikely to cross paths in the professional world, but I would be happy to hear about your positive success in the job market with these statements prominently displayed. Which statements ? like saying on your resume "I quit my job because i didnt get the bonus i felt entitled to" ? This is hardly a good metric. Most people when reading a piece of information would have the tendency to assign blame to the party they do not identify with. The way to look at it, if you were to ask the employer to add to the job description "The last guy who this job quit he didn't get the bonus he felt entitled to" would equally deter job applicants. And second , some people can absolutely pool this off, depending on how valuable they are to the company.