> At the moment you choose to take their word which indicates your bias. No, not really. I'm talking about principles. If a guy acts threatening towards you,

> At the moment you choose to take their word which indicates your bias. No, not really. I'm talking about principles. If a guy acts threatening towards you, then you're allowed to defend yourself. If a guy holds a gun, and throws aggressive slurs at you while approaching, do you agree that it's a really threatening thing to do? Would you wait for the obviously threatening guy to raise his gun, or just shoot him before he ever gets to that point? > There is no evidence pointing the victim pointed the gun at the suspect. Is there evidence that he didn't? Honestly, does it even matter? When some guy starts acting threatening while holding a gun, are you going to wait until he points it at you before defending yourself? Cuz you won't get a second chance, mate. You either make him a "victim" of your right to self defene, or you die. I'd rather survive to spend some time in jail, or die because of poorly thought out ideas about victimhood.