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I am surprised, how expensive the equivalent of some root server is. Example: 4 vCPUs (what CPU is it??), 16 GB RAM Cheapest offer: 65,7$ per month My favorit

by buster 5y ago

I am surprised, how expensive the equivalent of some root server is. Example: 4 vCPUs (what CPU is it??), 16 GB RAM Cheapest offer: 65,7$ per month My favorite german provider: 4 Cores AMD Epyc, 16 GB RAM, 14€ per month (https://www.netcup.de/vserver/#root-server-details= https://www.netcup.de/vserver/#root-server-details=) And i didn't even look for other providers.. What am i missing, when i just want some root server?

ddorian43 5y ago
> What am i missing, when i just want some root server? You are missing the bandwidth charges. And recalculate with those too. Other thing you're missing is that many people believe you either go cloud or build your own ASML-lithography machines. No in-between.
- welterde 5y ago
  > You are missing the bandwidth charges. Which tips the balance even further in the direction of the root server/dedicated server providers, since not only is the server cheaper but so are the bandwidth charges (usually by a lot).
- christophilus 5y ago
  I do terabytes of data across 10 Netcup servers for less $ per month than really, really underpowered AWS VPSs. Also, 0 failures / maintenance in over a year.
Wilya 5y ago
The use case is different. For the price of a cloud instance, on top of the instance itself, you are paying for: * availability. On AWS, you can start a couple dozens or hundreds of instances on demand, for a limited time. You are paying for that spare capacity. VPS/Dedicated servers generally have much lower spare capacity, and you're booking things by the month, not by the minute. * reliability. Most real cloud instances live on networked drives, and your risk of losing data is very low. On root servers, you have to handle data reliability yourself earlier. (you should do backups either way, but you're likely going to use your backups more often on VPS/Dedicated offerings than in the cloud) * surroundings services. Private networking, security features, etc. You pay a premium for all that, so for the same raw compute performance, cloud prices will be at least 2-3x the price of a basic root or dedicated server. On the other hand, vps/dedicated servers typically include bandwidth in the price. The best choice depends on your requirements, but most people will blindly go towards cloud servers..
christophilus 5y ago
Netcup is where I do all of my video transcoding. I ran tests on a huge swath of providers, and Netcup was by far the best bang for the buck. That said, they’re not really on-demand (it’s a monthly bill), and the UI is probably the worst of all the ones I tried. Still, very happy with them for dedicated, long running servers that you rarely touch.

by buster 5y ago

ddorian43 5y ago

> What am i missing, when i just want some root server? You are missing the bandwidth charges. And recalculate with those too. Other thing you're missing is that many people believe you either go cloud or build your own ASML-lithography machines. No in-between.

welterde 5y ago
> You are missing the bandwidth charges. Which tips the balance even further in the direction of the root server/dedicated server providers, since not only is the server cheaper but so are the bandwidth charges (usually by a lot).
christophilus 5y ago
I do terabytes of data across 10 Netcup servers for less $ per month than really, really underpowered AWS VPSs. Also, 0 failures / maintenance in over a year.

Wilya 5y ago

The use case is different. For the price of a cloud instance, on top of the instance itself, you are paying for: * availability. On AWS, you can start a couple dozens or hundreds of instances on demand, for a limited time. You are paying for that spare capacity. VPS/Dedicated servers generally have much lower spare capacity, and you're booking things by the month, not by the minute. * reliability. Most real cloud instances live on networked drives, and your risk of losing data is very low. On root servers, you have to handle data reliability yourself earlier. (you should do backups either way, but you're likely going to use your backups more often on VPS/Dedicated offerings than in the cloud) * surroundings services. Private networking, security features, etc. You pay a premium for all that, so for the same raw compute performance, cloud prices will be at least 2-3x the price of a basic root or dedicated server. On the other hand, vps/dedicated servers typically include bandwidth in the price. The best choice depends on your requirements, but most people will blindly go towards cloud servers..

christophilus 5y ago

Netcup is where I do all of my video transcoding. I ran tests on a huge swath of providers, and Netcup was by far the best bang for the buck. That said, they’re not really on-demand (it’s a monthly bill), and the UI is probably the worst of all the ones I tried. Still, very happy with them for dedicated, long running servers that you rarely touch.