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Or hired dieticians controlling what you eat and 3-4 hours of workouts a day under the supervision of a personal trainer or 3. Chris Pratt said something simila

Or hired dieticians controlling what you eat and 3-4 hours of workouts a day under the supervision of a personal trainer or 3. Chris Pratt said something similar about his role in a few movies

amval 6y ago
The only way to do 3-4 hours workouts daily is to take performance enhancing drugs. Those hired dieticians are controlling diet, workout and drug regime.
- taurath 6y ago
  1-2 hours doing spot bodybuilding and 2 hours jogging seems reasonable without too much risk of overtraining
  - bagacrap 6y ago
    2 hours jogging daily is not only useless for physique, it's definitely going to lead to joint issues for the vast majority of people.
- Stunting 6y ago
  The first statement is false. I do 3-4 hour workouts 5x a week and have never taken PEDs Some facts. - I am a professional stuntman, so my livelihood and time are dedicated to this pursuit. Making the time is a requirement. - the time is made up of stretching, skill work, cardio, and strength training. It’s not 3 hours of 1 rep maxes. It is still intense. - lots of people use PEDs and HGH to acquire a temporary physique. However you would be shocked what small changes can do to affect your health, physique, and overall happiness. Adding squats will help you move move better. Yoga will help you feel better, and sprints will shed fat. - consistentcy beats all. Take all the drugs, do all the weekend bootcamps, and try all the crash diets you want. Simply doing anything over a long enough period of time will always yield better results.
  - johnchristopher 6y ago
    3-4 hours workout is a lot. What are your characters stats (I don't know how to put it): muscles, bench press, endurance, etc. ?
  - tonyedgecombe 6y ago
    Some facts. - I am a professional stuntman This place never ceases to surprise me.
  - jhickok 6y ago
    Adding 30 minutes of yoga to my daily routine has been life-changing. I have more energy, move better, feel more comfortable in my body, and feel more confidence in doing other workouts. It's been 6 months and I wish I would have know about this in my teens.
  - bagacrap 6y ago
    Skill work is clearly a different beast than weight lifting. Skill work has minimal bearing on physique so should be left out. Cardio also does very little for action hero physique so unless you're trying to say that you can get better results on 4 hours a day of weight lifting than one hour, I don't think you've invalidated gp's statement.
- vidarh 6y ago
  Depends how intense those 3-4 hour workouts are. I think a lot of the difference in peoples estimate of how much they can exercise without steroids is down to differences in how people train. E.g. you're not going to manage 3-4 hours of heavy compound lifts a day done in quick succession, sure. At least not without lowering the weights so much it becomes more cardio than resistance training. Even 1 hour a day is overdoing it for powerlifting type training. At my strongest I was doing 45m every other day. I could probably have done more, but I got my best gains when I eased up and let my body recover properly. But if you're doing bodybuilding, and a lot of that time are not the big lifts but adding in lots of isolated lifts of various small muscle groups, and sufficiently low intensity cardio takes up a good chunk of the time as well, sure you can easily spend 3-4 hours a day without drugs. That said, a lot of people clearly claim to be natural while they're not.
bobcostas55 6y ago
People keep bringing up dieticians as if there's some kind magic, secret food they have access to that normal people don't. It's complete nonsense. Bodybuilders and actors and athletes eat the same chicken breast, rice, and broccoli that you can buy at the store.
- chmod600 6y ago
  Having someone to do the tracking and handle the decisions sounds like a huge help to me. Both of those things cause stress which is hard to sustain.
  - vkk8 6y ago
    Maybe it was once, but things like Myfitnesspal make diet tracking pretty easy for everyone nowadays. As for timing and macronutrient composition of foods, that's something the dieticians can probably help, but it's also something you can learn in a few hours by watching Youtube. Having trainers, dieticians, etc. professionals around you to help with everything probably makes it easier in the sense that you probably save one or two hours of planning and organizing your life per week, and probably your programming is a bit more optimized, but it's hardly a game changer. If you are somewhat devoted to the topic, you can learn and do all the same stuff yourself.
  - phobosanomaly 6y ago
    Yeah, it's literally paying someone to follow you around all day and control what you put in your mouth. There's no guy in spandex telling me not to buy those Reese's Pieces at 7/11 when I'm bored on a Sunday.
- Someone 6y ago
  Money and (loss of) fame are great motivators. Also, for this having made it, money-wise, being able to afford a great cook, having a personal trainer who reminds you of your goals, being tempted less because you never visit a supermarket, etc. all help.
travisjungroth 6y ago
It's not a "or", it's "and". Steroid use is very common among celebrities, especially male action stars. Celebrities have physiques in time frames and at ages that just aren't possible otherwise. No hate to them for doing it. But it's important that we're at least honest about it because of the effect it has on people's (especially men's) own body images and ideas about transformations. Losing 60 pounds while packing on muscle in 6 months at 38 years old is not possible without gear.
- Graffur 6y ago
  Actually there is justified hate for them doing it. They're promoting unrealistic bodies which is causing a huge amount of problems.
  - ryanlol 6y ago
    Safely taking steroids to achieve a movie star look is just about as realistic as driving a new Mercedes. Sure, you need to spend some money on medical supervision. Beyond that all it takes is ~6 hours a week at the gym.
- alboy 6y ago
  >But it's important that we're at least honest about it because of the effect it has on people's (especially men's) own body images and ideas about transformations. Steroids are mostly there to aid recovery from the otherwise unmanageable amount of work one puts in. Most people are limited by their willingness to put in the work and never reach the point where steroids would be required (or even make a significant difference).
  - amznthrowaway5 6y ago
    This is not true. Steroids have huge effects other than recovery, they'll provoke far greater response for the same amount of work.
    - alboy 6y ago

Or hired dieticians controlling what you eat and 3-4 hours of workouts a day under the supervision of a personal trainer or 3. Chris Pratt said something similar about his role in a few movies

amval 6y ago

The only way to do 3-4 hours workouts daily is to take performance enhancing drugs. Those hired dieticians are controlling diet, workout and drug regime.

taurath 6y ago
1-2 hours doing spot bodybuilding and 2 hours jogging seems reasonable without too much risk of overtraining
- bagacrap 6y ago
  2 hours jogging daily is not only useless for physique, it's definitely going to lead to joint issues for the vast majority of people.
Stunting 6y ago
The first statement is false. I do 3-4 hour workouts 5x a week and have never taken PEDs Some facts. - I am a professional stuntman, so my livelihood and time are dedicated to this pursuit. Making the time is a requirement. - the time is made up of stretching, skill work, cardio, and strength training. It’s not 3 hours of 1 rep maxes. It is still intense. - lots of people use PEDs and HGH to acquire a temporary physique. However you would be shocked what small changes can do to affect your health, physique, and overall happiness. Adding squats will help you move move better. Yoga will help you feel better, and sprints will shed fat. - consistentcy beats all. Take all the drugs, do all the weekend bootcamps, and try all the crash diets you want. Simply doing anything over a long enough period of time will always yield better results.
- johnchristopher 6y ago
  3-4 hours workout is a lot. What are your characters stats (I don't know how to put it): muscles, bench press, endurance, etc. ?
- tonyedgecombe 6y ago
  Some facts. - I am a professional stuntman This place never ceases to surprise me.
- jhickok 6y ago
  Adding 30 minutes of yoga to my daily routine has been life-changing. I have more energy, move better, feel more comfortable in my body, and feel more confidence in doing other workouts. It's been 6 months and I wish I would have know about this in my teens.
- bagacrap 6y ago
  Skill work is clearly a different beast than weight lifting. Skill work has minimal bearing on physique so should be left out. Cardio also does very little for action hero physique so unless you're trying to say that you can get better results on 4 hours a day of weight lifting than one hour, I don't think you've invalidated gp's statement.
vidarh 6y ago
Depends how intense those 3-4 hour workouts are. I think a lot of the difference in peoples estimate of how much they can exercise without steroids is down to differences in how people train. E.g. you're not going to manage 3-4 hours of heavy compound lifts a day done in quick succession, sure. At least not without lowering the weights so much it becomes more cardio than resistance training. Even 1 hour a day is overdoing it for powerlifting type training. At my strongest I was doing 45m every other day. I could probably have done more, but I got my best gains when I eased up and let my body recover properly. But if you're doing bodybuilding, and a lot of that time are not the big lifts but adding in lots of isolated lifts of various small muscle groups, and sufficiently low intensity cardio takes up a good chunk of the time as well, sure you can easily spend 3-4 hours a day without drugs. That said, a lot of people clearly claim to be natural while they're not.

bobcostas55 6y ago

People keep bringing up dieticians as if there's some kind magic, secret food they have access to that normal people don't. It's complete nonsense. Bodybuilders and actors and athletes eat the same chicken breast, rice, and broccoli that you can buy at the store.

chmod600 6y ago
Having someone to do the tracking and handle the decisions sounds like a huge help to me. Both of those things cause stress which is hard to sustain.
- vkk8 6y ago
  Maybe it was once, but things like Myfitnesspal make diet tracking pretty easy for everyone nowadays. As for timing and macronutrient composition of foods, that's something the dieticians can probably help, but it's also something you can learn in a few hours by watching Youtube. Having trainers, dieticians, etc. professionals around you to help with everything probably makes it easier in the sense that you probably save one or two hours of planning and organizing your life per week, and probably your programming is a bit more optimized, but it's hardly a game changer. If you are somewhat devoted to the topic, you can learn and do all the same stuff yourself.
- phobosanomaly 6y ago
  Yeah, it's literally paying someone to follow you around all day and control what you put in your mouth. There's no guy in spandex telling me not to buy those Reese's Pieces at 7/11 when I'm bored on a Sunday.
Someone 6y ago
Money and (loss of) fame are great motivators. Also, for this having made it, money-wise, being able to afford a great cook, having a personal trainer who reminds you of your goals, being tempted less because you never visit a supermarket, etc. all help.

travisjungroth 6y ago

It's not a "or", it's "and". Steroid use is very common among celebrities, especially male action stars. Celebrities have physiques in time frames and at ages that just aren't possible otherwise. No hate to them for doing it. But it's important that we're at least honest about it because of the effect it has on people's (especially men's) own body images and ideas about transformations. Losing 60 pounds while packing on muscle in 6 months at 38 years old is not possible without gear.

Graffur 6y ago
Actually there is justified hate for them doing it. They're promoting unrealistic bodies which is causing a huge amount of problems.
- ryanlol 6y ago
  Safely taking steroids to achieve a movie star look is just about as realistic as driving a new Mercedes. Sure, you need to spend some money on medical supervision. Beyond that all it takes is ~6 hours a week at the gym.
alboy 6y ago
>But it's important that we're at least honest about it because of the effect it has on people's (especially men's) own body images and ideas about transformations. Steroids are mostly there to aid recovery from the otherwise unmanageable amount of work one puts in. Most people are limited by their willingness to put in the work and never reach the point where steroids would be required (or even make a significant difference).
- amznthrowaway5 6y ago
  This is not true. Steroids have huge effects other than recovery, they'll provoke far greater response for the same amount of work.
  - alboy 6y ago