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That's a pretty nice thing you did here, but i'm questioned by what you call "left". Left means abolition of private property (sharing of resources) so i was ex
by southerntofu 6y ago
That's a pretty nice thing you did here, but i'm questioned by what you call "left". Left means abolition of private property (sharing of resources) so i was expecting more left-wing publications like (just to name a few) crimethinc.com unicornriot.ninja itsgoingdown.org theantimedia.com. Some like jacobinmag.com or democracynow.org appear on the project's README but i don't find anything from there on the site.
Is there a place detailing the data sources for their.news if it's different than the adfontesmedia list? Also for people not aware that list itself was very sketchy in my view. From another comment of mine:
> Sometimes i read articles from Jacobin Mag. I don’t follow it and don’t support it, however it pops up sometimes in my “feeds”. I was surprised to see it marked as really unreliable, while all articles i read there were long-form well-sourced articles. In particular, this article about US military courts is marked as highly unreliable, why? https://jacobinmag.com/2021/01/us-armed-forces-capitol-hill-riot-military-courts-martial-ucmj https://jacobinmag.com/2021/01/us-armed-forces-capitol-hill-...
- pvg 6y agoLeft means abolition of private property It doesn't, that's just a misunderstanding of your own.
- southerntofu 6y agoWhat's your source for debunking my definition? What's your own definition? According to social sciences, and according to Wikipedia: > Left-wing politics supports social equality and egalitarianism, often in critique of social hierarchy. Left-wing politics typically involves a concern for those in society whom its adherents perceive as disadvantaged relative to others as well as a belief that there are unjustified inequalities that need to be reduced or abolished.[1] According to emeritus professor of economics Barry Clark, left-wing supporters "claim that human development flourishes when individuals engage in cooperative, mutually respectful relations that can thrive only when excessive differences in status, power, and wealth are eliminated." > Leftist economic beliefs range from Keynesian economics and the welfare state through industrial democracy and the social market to the nationalization of the economy and central planning, to the anarcho-syndicalist advocacy of a council- and assembly-based self-managed anarchist communism. Social-liberal keynesian economics, according to that definition, is very-moderate left politics (center-left), whereas marxism or anarchism are more on the left. See also politicalcompass.org to get more information on this topic you obviously don't know about despite trying to lecture me. Also related, in the field of software engineering, we use the word "copyleft" precisely as in "abolition of private property" because copyright ensures monopoly on ideas and their expression (private property), whereas copyleft ensures they belong to everyone (collective property). As an end note, please note that abolishing private property doesn't mean taking away people's possessions/belongings. We anarchists refer to that as usage-based property (not sure about translation, we use "propriété d'usage" in french) where property is based on needs and not on the dogmatic worship of a piece of paper (property title). That is a central disagreement with the marxists who believe a central State and its police ("dictatorship of the proletariat") should be in charge of deciding what you can or can't use, which is effectively the same as private property with the State as owner/enforcer of everything.
- pvg 6y agoI don't think I've 'debunked' let alone 'lectured' but the sources you've found yourself don't support the assertion 'left means abolition of private property'. It's simply far too narrow an interpretation of a much broader label.