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I would expect “we’re investigating this issue and/or taking corrective action” because that’s the actually empathetic thing to do when a child has died and oth

by oivey 6y ago

I would expect “we’re investigating this issue and/or taking corrective action” because that’s the actually empathetic thing to do when a child has died and others have been injured. No PR department should be putting out knee jerk reactions. It’s their job not to. That their reaction is to deflect blame doesn’t bode well for them making an effort to address the problem. Peloton is not even just deflecting blame here. They are accusing the government of basically lying.

HenryBemis 6y ago
They want to avoid a re-call and installation of a $100 unit with an extra $100 labour cost (because bye-bye profit margin). Also, the second they (themselves - Peloton) admit that "our product killed a kid and we knew of this risk, and we chose risk acceptance and when with it anyway - because you know.. profit margin" their company is dead. They got one chance, to prove that "everyone else is crazy, and please buy more Pelotons with pathetic ads". They can take the high-road that has a 50-50 (?) chance to doom them, or make them the top responsible company. What we can do is stop buying their products, until they either make them safer, or see them go bust (and spend the extra $50-100-200 and buy safer products).
- kzrdude 6y ago
  It must be pretty hard to make that choice for an employee of the company. Lie about the death of the kid or not? Another reminder that we need to make space for using ethics at work, and not just doing whatever the company thinks is best. A company as a legal person is basically a sociopath (if it were a person).
  - graerg 6y ago
    > The boy was not breathing and had no pulse and survived with significant brain injuries, the report said. Peloton said the boy was expected to fully recover, according to the report. The PR machine is in full "there is no war in Ba Sing Se" mode.
    - HenryBemis 6y ago
      Cool reference!!! Thank you!
asdfasgasdgasdg 6y ago
> we’re investigating this issue and/or taking corrective action Who says they haven't? I mean, isn't that the exact claim they're making when they say the CPSC has mischaracterized the situation? That they've investigated the issue and determined that the CPSC's stance is incorrect?

by oivey 6y ago

HenryBemis 6y ago

They want to avoid a re-call and installation of a $100 unit with an extra $100 labour cost (because bye-bye profit margin). Also, the second they (themselves - Peloton) admit that "our product killed a kid and we knew of this risk, and we chose risk acceptance and when with it anyway - because you know.. profit margin" their company is dead. They got one chance, to prove that "everyone else is crazy, and please buy more Pelotons with pathetic ads". They can take the high-road that has a 50-50 (?) chance to doom them, or make them the top responsible company. What we can do is stop buying their products, until they either make them safer, or see them go bust (and spend the extra $50-100-200 and buy safer products).

kzrdude 6y ago
It must be pretty hard to make that choice for an employee of the company. Lie about the death of the kid or not? Another reminder that we need to make space for using ethics at work, and not just doing whatever the company thinks is best. A company as a legal person is basically a sociopath (if it were a person).
- graerg 6y ago
  > The boy was not breathing and had no pulse and survived with significant brain injuries, the report said. Peloton said the boy was expected to fully recover, according to the report. The PR machine is in full "there is no war in Ba Sing Se" mode.
  - HenryBemis 6y ago
    Cool reference!!! Thank you!

asdfasgasdgasdg 6y ago

> we’re investigating this issue and/or taking corrective action Who says they haven't? I mean, isn't that the exact claim they're making when they say the CPSC has mischaracterized the situation? That they've investigated the issue and determined that the CPSC's stance is incorrect?