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So absolutely no data on the device obtained via webGL is used for marketing or other BI workloads? None of it is shared with 3rd parties (especially advertiser

by tmpz22 6y ago

So absolutely no data on the device obtained via webGL is used for marketing or other BI workloads? None of it is shared with 3rd parties (especially advertisers)? Its entirely used for the user experience and then discarded when no longer relevant? FWIW while I'm playing hardball here I really appreciate your answer and expertise.

Ensorceled 6y ago
> FWIW while I'm playing hardball here I really appreciate your answer and expertise. You’re actually just outright accusing them of lying.
- djrogers 6y ago
  Do you see those question marks? Those denote questions. Questions are not accusations.
  - wizzwizz4 6y ago
    Tell that to Socrates.
  - itsananderson 6y ago
    Have you stopped beating your wife? Edit: this is the typical example of a loaded question, not an actual accusation against the parent comment https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loaded_question https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loaded_question
  - jameshart 6y ago
    Really? never? So when did you stop beating your wife?
    - II2II 6y ago
      I understand the point you are trying to make, with the question incorporating an accusation (i.e. that the person beat their wife in the past). That is different from asking pointed questions about potential actions (e.g. "have you ever beat your wife?").
- Quarrelsome 6y ago
  outright is literal, this isn't outright its just challenging their answer and its journalistically a good sequence of questions. You need to be able to tell the good from the bad and IMO you're wearing these trousers the wrong way round.
- Nextgrid 6y ago
  Considering companies have lied before when it comes to privacy & ad tracking (see Facebook's "promise" of not using 2FA phone numbers for advertising purposes) his concerns are totally reasonable.
- slashink 6y ago
  I didn't interpret the comment as an acquisition to my original comment. It's good to ask the hard questions and even though I'm not able to answer it in detail I still think that 'tmpz22' brought up a good point in that data can be used for both good and bad at the same time.
slashink 6y ago
I don't work at Twitch anymore so I can't answer your question without guessing and I rather not. There is always a likelihood that data gets used for reasons beyond the original purpose. In the best of world the hardware that runs on consumers devices would do the right thing which would allow the web to be a perfect sandbox. I think we're slowly getting there, in terms of video it's slowly getting to a point where H.264 support is "universally true" rather than a minefield although VP9 and AV1 is a bit of being back to square one. I think the spirit of my original comment was not to say "I promise that X company isn't doing Y" more to explain why this code existed in the first place. A search engine doesn't need to know what WebGL capabilities a device has as it doesn't deal with rendering whereas a site that has to work with hardware decoders most likely does need to know.
rasz 6y ago
Just looked at it, it only triggers when player encounters an error while decoding video.

by tmpz22 6y ago

Ensorceled 6y ago

> FWIW while I'm playing hardball here I really appreciate your answer and expertise. You’re actually just outright accusing them of lying.

djrogers 6y ago
Do you see those question marks? Those denote questions. Questions are not accusations.
- wizzwizz4 6y ago
  Tell that to Socrates.
- itsananderson 6y ago
  Have you stopped beating your wife? Edit: this is the typical example of a loaded question, not an actual accusation against the parent comment https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loaded_question https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loaded_question
- jameshart 6y ago
  Really? never? So when did you stop beating your wife?
  - II2II 6y ago
    I understand the point you are trying to make, with the question incorporating an accusation (i.e. that the person beat their wife in the past). That is different from asking pointed questions about potential actions (e.g. "have you ever beat your wife?").
Quarrelsome 6y ago
outright is literal, this isn't outright its just challenging their answer and its journalistically a good sequence of questions. You need to be able to tell the good from the bad and IMO you're wearing these trousers the wrong way round.
Nextgrid 6y ago
Considering companies have lied before when it comes to privacy & ad tracking (see Facebook's "promise" of not using 2FA phone numbers for advertising purposes) his concerns are totally reasonable.
slashink 6y ago
I didn't interpret the comment as an acquisition to my original comment. It's good to ask the hard questions and even though I'm not able to answer it in detail I still think that 'tmpz22' brought up a good point in that data can be used for both good and bad at the same time.

slashink 6y ago

I don't work at Twitch anymore so I can't answer your question without guessing and I rather not. There is always a likelihood that data gets used for reasons beyond the original purpose. In the best of world the hardware that runs on consumers devices would do the right thing which would allow the web to be a perfect sandbox. I think we're slowly getting there, in terms of video it's slowly getting to a point where H.264 support is "universally true" rather than a minefield although VP9 and AV1 is a bit of being back to square one. I think the spirit of my original comment was not to say "I promise that X company isn't doing Y" more to explain why this code existed in the first place. A search engine doesn't need to know what WebGL capabilities a device has as it doesn't deal with rendering whereas a site that has to work with hardware decoders most likely does need to know.

rasz 6y ago

Just looked at it, it only triggers when player encounters an error while decoding video.