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I worked with Vodafone and AT&T for projects in Europe. It was a large company to that did some work with SDNs and were a MSP. Can confirm the endless chain of
by wil421 6y ago
I worked with Vodafone and AT&T for projects in Europe. It was a large company to that did some work with SDNs and were a MSP. Can confirm the endless chain of subcontractors when dealing with large Telcos.
Europe in general has a fetish with subcontracting IT to the point where only the contractor’s can do it. Sometimes it’s the contractors’s contractor’s contractor who is the only one who can do anything.
- kazen44 6y agothis fetishization of contracting everything out to subcontractors has to do with the fact that most business schools teach one principle and one principle only. risk taking is a sin that will hurt your bottom line. subcontracting delegates that risk to someone else while leaving your company with little to no real staff that can do the innovation. in the short term this does not matter, because the company stays profitable, but long term this is resulting in a system in which no one has complete ownership and responsibility of their systems, which makes doing changes and innovating nearly impossible.
- wil421 6y agoThe US doesn’t do it quite as much. I was shocked how much some of the larger known European telcos and companies contract out. As in the entirety of their networking and most of their IT functions were outside.
- whimsicalism 6y agoThe US does it quite a bit. I think it depends on what sort of company you're working in. For instance, when I worked in US govt, best as I could tell all the real work was done by contractors and the govt employees sat around on their asses all day.
- mindentropy 6y agoI have seen many European companies love big monopolistic giants like IBM or Microsoft. There is literally no respect for smaller innovative companies.
- mindentropy 6y agoI was shocked when I saw one of the Big Medical companies in Europe outsource almost every single thing. Headquartered in Switzerland, its German office was mainly just Product managers writing requirements. Most of them would do endless paper work and all technical work is outsourced to multiple contractors. One of the requirements of the Product managers was to handle all these contractors so that things run smoothly. Many of the product managers had PhD degrees or Masters doing this nonsense. Finally the wonder why the cost of their products are so high. I have noticed that it is better in the United States where a lot of medical companies have a lot of in house technical experience.