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Wait? Why where the comments here flagged and removed, they where right in that china is most likely abusing such things for industry espionage and pushing poli

Wait? Why where the comments here flagged and removed, they where right in that china is most likely abusing such things for industry espionage and pushing political opinions, [rest mine:] and we know (Snowden) that the US does so. Through in both cases both powers most times don't need to use any backdoors or similar as they can just influence the companies in questions directly. Like don't forget the currently ongoing law suite against a (Chinese) Zoom executive or how they repeatedly successful pressured Apple, to erode how much apple users can go against the CCP... (e.g. removing disliked censor resisting Apps and similar). And lets be honest for most (but not all) people neither power would ever bother targeting them directly, but the side effects of targeting which isn't against them directly still has a good chance of long term degrading their live quality (IMHO).

dathinab 6y ago
Addendum: Just to be clear I don't think Cisco or Huwei or any similar company is doing espionage on their decision. But such companies consist of people and it would be strange if Chine/USA did not install some people their which do their bidding if needed, or in transit manipulate hardware or similar. > Huawei’s says it never acted inappropriately by abusing its position in the Netherlands. I believe Huawei (as company) never did so, and the IMHO most likely existing Huawei employed which might do so anyway also likely didn't do so because they had no reason to (as far as I know). The think about people you install somewhere is you don't us them until you necessary. Because then they likely won't get caught.