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Every time I read one of these reviews it makes me so glad to be using a desktop PC with Manjaro. Things I need to do just all work for me, no surprise limitati

Every time I read one of these reviews it makes me so glad to be using a desktop PC with Manjaro. Things I need to do just all work for me, no surprise limitations, no worrying about how long an irreplaceable battery or SSD will last and no constant battle with some corporation over who controls my computer. I don't get people who would want to optimize for working on a train or a plane or in a meeting either. My desktop is in a quiet room where I do work stuff and I easily get more compute per dollar too.

Toutouxc 5y ago
> worrying about how long an irreplaceable battery or SSD will last and no constant battle with some corporation over who controls my computer You really need to understand that this is nothing but a strawman. I'm a M1 Air user. I'm currently worrying about how I'm gonna express some business logic in my app, not about some imaginary "irreplaceable" battery or an SSD. If anything breaks in the first two years (which probably won't happen), I'll have the machine or the part replaced for free. If anything breaks after the second year, well, I can either have it repaired or just get a newer Mac with the total cost of ownership of the old one being firmly below $50/month, which is laughably low for a tool that puts food on the table. And that's in an ex eastern bloc country where the average monthly wage is around $1300 net. > My desktop is in a quiet room where I do work stuff Mine too, in my bedroom, where I have a desk with a 43" screen on it. With the laptop connected in clamshell mode. Or on the couch. Sometimes I go to the office. Sometimes I go to meetings. And a laptop allows me to use a single machine for all that, ain't that great?
- rovr138 5y ago
  > And a laptop allows me to use a single machine for all that, ain't that great? It's AMAZING. I have servers, raspberry pi's. I work locally and push to wherever I need. I work from home, sometimes from my office, sometimes from the couch. Sometimes I went out to coffee shops or the library. I sometimes gotta hop on a plane and go to the office where I switch between desks, conference rooms, offices. I travel to visit family. A single device allows me to just close the lid and keep going. It's amazing.
  - wayneftw 5y ago
    You have to close a lid and pack it up? Imagine having to carry your entire computer with you. Kind of an expensive item to be walking around with. Me, I just git push and walk away empty handed. Everything I need is in the cloud. Sure, I have a laptop for meetings, coffee shops and couches but those are scientifically proven to be terrible places to work. And with just one screen :(
- hrocha1 5y ago
  It's always a good idea to think about "most likely scenario" and optimize for that. Everyone’s requirements and workflow is different. It's not worth it to go for the "mobility option" if you are sitting behind you desk 95% of your time and vice versa. For example I can't have all the dependencies I need for work on an "offline laptop" and I work from the same place most of the time. Which means it's much more beneficial for me to have a beefy workstation setup with 3 displays and an old MacBook that works as a "remote desktop" when I need it. On the other hand someone who is on the go all the time might prefer to have beefy laptop with some docking solution on his desk. I'm always wondering why some people think that their solution is the best for everyone ...
- wayneftw 5y ago
  It's really not though. Can you yourself replace the battery or the SSD? If not, it's irreplaceable for all intents and purposes. Enjoy waiting for your work tool which puts food on the table while it's in the shop I guess. My machines are orders of magnitude less expensive than your quote, so I have others on standby and I can take a ride up the street to buy parts if I don't feel like waiting a day for delivery. > With the laptop connected in clamshell mode. For those of us not part of the Apple cult/SV bubble in-group, that just means "closed" right? What a shitty form factor though. It takes up desk space while limiting you to a single external display. All those hard and soft limitations so you can drag a single machine into a meeting or work (poorly) on a couch or in a cafe is an absolutely terrible tradeoff. In the age of syncing everything over the Internet the value of a single machine is negative. Putting all the eggs into one basket has never been a good idea. And who even needs their entire machine in a meeting? Anyone that is doing creative work during a meeting is thoroughly doing it wrong. I would tell you to give a couple of desktops a try but I guess if you're Apple's prisoner already you'll be out $10k if you want properly outfitted desktop machines for your home and office.
  - Toutouxc 5y ago
    I'm sorry that my computer setup offends you.
    - wayneftw 5y ago
      Me? Offended? By a lowly computer no less?? No way! You're the one that responded to my original post with accusations of strawmen bud :-) I guess we cemented that sucker in pretty good now though eh?

Toutouxc 5y ago

> worrying about how long an irreplaceable battery or SSD will last and no constant battle with some corporation over who controls my computer You really need to understand that this is nothing but a strawman. I'm a M1 Air user. I'm currently worrying about how I'm gonna express some business logic in my app, not about some imaginary "irreplaceable" battery or an SSD. If anything breaks in the first two years (which probably won't happen), I'll have the machine or the part replaced for free. If anything breaks after the second year, well, I can either have it repaired or just get a newer Mac with the total cost of ownership of the old one being firmly below $50/month, which is laughably low for a tool that puts food on the table. And that's in an ex eastern bloc country where the average monthly wage is around $1300 net. > My desktop is in a quiet room where I do work stuff Mine too, in my bedroom, where I have a desk with a 43" screen on it. With the laptop connected in clamshell mode. Or on the couch. Sometimes I go to the office. Sometimes I go to meetings. And a laptop allows me to use a single machine for all that, ain't that great?

rovr138 5y ago
> And a laptop allows me to use a single machine for all that, ain't that great? It's AMAZING. I have servers, raspberry pi's. I work locally and push to wherever I need. I work from home, sometimes from my office, sometimes from the couch. Sometimes I went out to coffee shops or the library. I sometimes gotta hop on a plane and go to the office where I switch between desks, conference rooms, offices. I travel to visit family. A single device allows me to just close the lid and keep going. It's amazing.
- wayneftw 5y ago
  You have to close a lid and pack it up? Imagine having to carry your entire computer with you. Kind of an expensive item to be walking around with. Me, I just git push and walk away empty handed. Everything I need is in the cloud. Sure, I have a laptop for meetings, coffee shops and couches but those are scientifically proven to be terrible places to work. And with just one screen :(
hrocha1 5y ago
It's always a good idea to think about "most likely scenario" and optimize for that. Everyone’s requirements and workflow is different. It's not worth it to go for the "mobility option" if you are sitting behind you desk 95% of your time and vice versa. For example I can't have all the dependencies I need for work on an "offline laptop" and I work from the same place most of the time. Which means it's much more beneficial for me to have a beefy workstation setup with 3 displays and an old MacBook that works as a "remote desktop" when I need it. On the other hand someone who is on the go all the time might prefer to have beefy laptop with some docking solution on his desk. I'm always wondering why some people think that their solution is the best for everyone ...
wayneftw 5y ago
It's really not though. Can you yourself replace the battery or the SSD? If not, it's irreplaceable for all intents and purposes. Enjoy waiting for your work tool which puts food on the table while it's in the shop I guess. My machines are orders of magnitude less expensive than your quote, so I have others on standby and I can take a ride up the street to buy parts if I don't feel like waiting a day for delivery. > With the laptop connected in clamshell mode. For those of us not part of the Apple cult/SV bubble in-group, that just means "closed" right? What a shitty form factor though. It takes up desk space while limiting you to a single external display. All those hard and soft limitations so you can drag a single machine into a meeting or work (poorly) on a couch or in a cafe is an absolutely terrible tradeoff. In the age of syncing everything over the Internet the value of a single machine is negative. Putting all the eggs into one basket has never been a good idea. And who even needs their entire machine in a meeting? Anyone that is doing creative work during a meeting is thoroughly doing it wrong. I would tell you to give a couple of desktops a try but I guess if you're Apple's prisoner already you'll be out $10k if you want properly outfitted desktop machines for your home and office.
- Toutouxc 5y ago
  I'm sorry that my computer setup offends you.
  - wayneftw 5y ago
    Me? Offended? By a lowly computer no less?? No way! You're the one that responded to my original post with accusations of strawmen bud :-) I guess we cemented that sucker in pretty good now though eh?