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> On top of React, no less -- I really do not understand this blend of jabs. To me it seems like the people complaining about React and React-like frameworks a

by rualca 6y ago

> On top of React, no less -- I really do not understand this blend of jabs. To me it seems like the people complaining about React and React-like frameworks are completely oblivious to the fact that well-designed desktop apps, where UI is decoupled from business logic and driven by state machines, are already pretty much React without hand-written widgets.

blacktriangle 6y ago
That's not the part of React people are complaining about. The jab at react is a jab at the whole virtual DOM thing which is just a completely unnecessary layer of abstraction in a desktop app. If you wanted to say Angular or Ember apps are more like traditional desktop apps, then sure.
- rualca 6y ago
  > That's not the part of React people are complaining about. The jab at react is a jab at the whole virtual DOM thing which is just a completely unnecessary layer of abstraction in a desktop app. Is it, really? I don't think so, at all. I mean, no one ever complained about webview-type apps because of the virtual dom. Ever. It has been known for ages that the myth about the virtual dom's so-called ineficciency barely fits in the realm of microoptimization. https://auth0.com/blog/face-off-virtual-dom-vs-incremental-dom-vs-glimmer/ https://auth0.com/blog/face-off-virtual-dom-vs-incremental-d... There's an awful lot of irrational hatred towards webview-type apps for no good reason at all. That's it.
  - blacktriangle 6y ago
    The problem with the virtual DOM isn't performance related, it's that it's just yet another layer of leaky abstraction.