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Apple does not own the hardware, why do they have any say what software I choose to execute. Moreover, when one is selling something that involves transferring

by anfilt 6y ago

Apple does not own the hardware, why do they have any say what software I choose to execute. Moreover, when one is selling something that involves transferring all rights in tangible/real property being sold to be transfered. Here apple is reserving the right to decide what can and cant run on the device. This clearly is a violation of property rights. Last I checked apple did not have people sign rent/lease agreements for the hardware.

kabdib 6y ago
Apple definitely has a say in how its software is run. IOS is licensed for use on Apple-branded devices, with further stipulations requiring, amongst other things, that it remain unmodified (it's right there in the EULA). I'll be the last one to prevent you from running your own software on the hardware you bought. So, knock yourself out: Wipe all the nasty, evil Apple software off of that device and have your way with it. I would not expect any help from Apple about how to do this.
- ClumsyPilot 6y ago
  "I would not expect any help from Apple about how to do this." This argument is straight up disingenuous- Apple is actively preventing you from running whatever you want on your property and they are preventing you from repairing it. You cannot get them to remove their crap from it.
- anfilt 6y ago
  The hardware still will not run any software that is not signed by apple. So even if I wanted to run linux on the device, I can't. The software EULA is not the problem. It's how they are controlling the underlying hardware.
  - Terretta 6y ago
    Speaking of these devices, software is just virtual hardware, hardware is just statically fixed software. It’s all just patterns of logic gates configured to operate other cartridges of capability. Conjuring up some arbitrary boundary constrains device maker innovation, reliability, security, and other consumer value. You are free to pick your own water line, find a device that draws the line there, and vote with your wallet — or make and market your own thesis.

by anfilt 6y ago

kabdib 6y ago

Apple definitely has a say in how its software is run. IOS is licensed for use on Apple-branded devices, with further stipulations requiring, amongst other things, that it remain unmodified (it's right there in the EULA). I'll be the last one to prevent you from running your own software on the hardware you bought. So, knock yourself out: Wipe all the nasty, evil Apple software off of that device and have your way with it. I would not expect any help from Apple about how to do this.

ClumsyPilot 6y ago
"I would not expect any help from Apple about how to do this." This argument is straight up disingenuous- Apple is actively preventing you from running whatever you want on your property and they are preventing you from repairing it. You cannot get them to remove their crap from it.
anfilt 6y ago
The hardware still will not run any software that is not signed by apple. So even if I wanted to run linux on the device, I can't. The software EULA is not the problem. It's how they are controlling the underlying hardware.
- Terretta 6y ago
  Speaking of these devices, software is just virtual hardware, hardware is just statically fixed software. It’s all just patterns of logic gates configured to operate other cartridges of capability. Conjuring up some arbitrary boundary constrains device maker innovation, reliability, security, and other consumer value. You are free to pick your own water line, find a device that draws the line there, and vote with your wallet — or make and market your own thesis.