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I always thought that if NASA chose another company, by the time they sent astronauts back to the moon they would be greeted by a small group of SpaceX colonist

I always thought that if NASA chose another company, by the time they sent astronauts back to the moon they would be greeted by a small group of SpaceX colonists. There really is no competition at this point. Bezos is a joke when it comes to the Space Race in my opinion, he should stick to what he's amazing at like selling groceries and things on Amazon.

edgyquant 6y ago
> Bezos is a joke when it comes to the Space Race in my opinion, he should stick to what he's amazing at like selling groceries and things on Amazon. I seriously disagree. I think Bezos is on a different trajectory than SpaceX and isn’t as concerned with quick iterations. He gets a lot of hate from Elon fanboys but I think he knows exactly what he’s doing and can afford to play the long game.
- kiba 6y ago
  SpaceX is the hare in this story, only it's not stopping to let Boeing catch up. Blue Origin is just a company that's burning money in Bezo's pocket.
  - edgyquant 6y ago
    I believe in ten years this comment will be laughable, but as it stands right now we’ll have to agree to disagree.
    - nickik 6y ago
      Funny I remember people telling me this like 6 years ago how BO would soon dominate. Bezos was actually concerned about quick iteration. They had a smaller rocket planned but because of SpaceX success they wanted to 1-up SpaceX and build an even bigger rocket. So they wet with the New Glenn design that is now public. That of course went away from their 'step by step' approach but Bezos wanted to 1-up Musk. However they announced it and 2 years later realized that they were hopelessly behind schedule so they waited until the last possible second to move it back by 3 years. The problem is of course that SpaceX already has a bigger rocket, Falcon Heavy. SpaceX next generation rocket is making far faster progress then New Glenn and is far more capable. New Glenn will be incredibly expensive and if they don't land it on the first try, they are gone have serious issues because they can't build these rockets very fast. Even if they manage to hit their launch date, their flight rate will be incredibly low for years. At this point, no matter what kind of money Blue has, they can not match SpaceX in team and ability to invest in future technology. Elon started with less 100M and built a 74 billion market cap company out of it that is dominating space industry and is only increasing it dominance over time. They dominate the launch market, the are running away with sat internet, they have every possible NASA service contract, they have been selected as a military launch provider and they are even starting to make inroads into building military sats. At the same time Bezos has thrown 5-10 billion $ into a company that is worth very little and has no clear path to actually making money anytime soon. In fact, its hard to see how they would ever make that money back. If you want to make the argument that in 10 years BO is some juggernaut, I would seriously want an explanation on how they are gone do it.
      - edgyquant 6y ago
        Show me where I said BO would dominate or be a juggernaut. You can’t, because what I said is that it wasn’t a money pit for Bezos and he does have a long term plan that isn’t to compete with SpaceX. As far as I’m aware BO plans are entirely orbital in nature while SpaceX wants to be the work horse of the solar system.
    - alvarlagerlof 6y ago
      Like those Bitcoin comments?
      - edgyquant 6y ago
        Irrelevant and whataboutism, the only comment I’m addressing here is BO being a money pit I never said they’d be the dominant rocket company.

edgyquant 6y ago

> Bezos is a joke when it comes to the Space Race in my opinion, he should stick to what he's amazing at like selling groceries and things on Amazon. I seriously disagree. I think Bezos is on a different trajectory than SpaceX and isn’t as concerned with quick iterations. He gets a lot of hate from Elon fanboys but I think he knows exactly what he’s doing and can afford to play the long game.

kiba 6y ago
SpaceX is the hare in this story, only it's not stopping to let Boeing catch up. Blue Origin is just a company that's burning money in Bezo's pocket.
- edgyquant 6y ago
  I believe in ten years this comment will be laughable, but as it stands right now we’ll have to agree to disagree.
  - nickik 6y ago
    Funny I remember people telling me this like 6 years ago how BO would soon dominate. Bezos was actually concerned about quick iteration. They had a smaller rocket planned but because of SpaceX success they wanted to 1-up SpaceX and build an even bigger rocket. So they wet with the New Glenn design that is now public. That of course went away from their 'step by step' approach but Bezos wanted to 1-up Musk. However they announced it and 2 years later realized that they were hopelessly behind schedule so they waited until the last possible second to move it back by 3 years. The problem is of course that SpaceX already has a bigger rocket, Falcon Heavy. SpaceX next generation rocket is making far faster progress then New Glenn and is far more capable. New Glenn will be incredibly expensive and if they don't land it on the first try, they are gone have serious issues because they can't build these rockets very fast. Even if they manage to hit their launch date, their flight rate will be incredibly low for years. At this point, no matter what kind of money Blue has, they can not match SpaceX in team and ability to invest in future technology. Elon started with less 100M and built a 74 billion market cap company out of it that is dominating space industry and is only increasing it dominance over time. They dominate the launch market, the are running away with sat internet, they have every possible NASA service contract, they have been selected as a military launch provider and they are even starting to make inroads into building military sats. At the same time Bezos has thrown 5-10 billion $ into a company that is worth very little and has no clear path to actually making money anytime soon. In fact, its hard to see how they would ever make that money back. If you want to make the argument that in 10 years BO is some juggernaut, I would seriously want an explanation on how they are gone do it.
    - edgyquant 6y ago
      Show me where I said BO would dominate or be a juggernaut. You can’t, because what I said is that it wasn’t a money pit for Bezos and he does have a long term plan that isn’t to compete with SpaceX. As far as I’m aware BO plans are entirely orbital in nature while SpaceX wants to be the work horse of the solar system.
  - alvarlagerlof 6y ago
    Like those Bitcoin comments?
    - edgyquant 6y ago
      Irrelevant and whataboutism, the only comment I’m addressing here is BO being a money pit I never said they’d be the dominant rocket company.