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I don’t know why anyone should believe you. Can you source some concrete facts if any? This is a provocative comment ready to start flame wars. Please tell sp

I don’t know why anyone should believe you. Can you source some concrete facts if any? This is a provocative comment ready to start flame wars. Please tell specifics and not paint broad brushstrokes to flame the fires. I’m sorry to flag your comment. Edit: One source we can look at the awards given to fundamental research. They’re overwhelmingly US-based. Fields, Nobel, Turing, etc. This contradicts the popular generalization.

watwut 6y ago
Someone having positive opinion of non American is not starting flamewar. Overreaction to it is. Threatening to flag it just because you disagree, or because someone having positive opinion of something in eu hurts you feeling is absurd.
- systemvoltage 6y ago
  So far, this thread has been the most uninteresting. These types of opinions lead to completely unsubstantiated back and forth. It’s not even remotely close to truth unless we have some facts to disclose. Threatening to flag!? I apologized to flag and provided reasons for it. Far cry from a threat. Obviously, you’ve all agreed that it was an overreaction. I’d say, the entire article is flamewar prone. How can you say something is best?
ur-whale 6y ago
> US-based. Fields, Nobel, Turing, How many of these were actually educated in the US, as in from primary school, and how many came to the US to complete a PhD after having received an education outside of the US?
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bananabiscuit 6y ago
A bit of an overreaction here? I’m pretty sure it’s ok for people to share their personal observations.
- systemvoltage 6y ago
  I don’t think so. I’ve seen time and again that it leads to completely unpleasant nationalism flame war. Did anyone read the article at all?
  - threatofrain 6y ago
    I'm surprised the trajectory of the forum would make you think that way. Also meta-conversation is very dangerous to focus.
    - codegladiator 6y ago
      Meta-meta-conversation is always fine though.
elefanten 6y ago
The commenter said no references, it seemed like an expression of broad opinion/experience, not like a strong declaration of truth.
atoav 6y ago
Why is this provocative? It was certainly not meant as a black and white contrasty "it is always true"-law of nature, bit rather someone describing vague undercurrents based onpersonal experience? Weird overreaction on your side tho.
andrewflnr 6y ago
"European and American universities both have strengths and weaknesses" is not that provocative.
ska 6y ago
> They’re overwhelmingly US-based. Fields, Nobel, Turing, etc This isn't really clear. For example, EU has generated about twice the fields medal recipients as the US. That's reasonable in terms of roughly equivalent populations, but does beg the question that if someone grows up in Europe, trains and spends early career in Europe, but ends up a professor in USA before being given a Nobel prize, where do you count the result?
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watwut 6y ago

Someone having positive opinion of non American is not starting flamewar. Overreaction to it is. Threatening to flag it just because you disagree, or because someone having positive opinion of something in eu hurts you feeling is absurd.

systemvoltage 6y ago
So far, this thread has been the most uninteresting. These types of opinions lead to completely unsubstantiated back and forth. It’s not even remotely close to truth unless we have some facts to disclose. Threatening to flag!? I apologized to flag and provided reasons for it. Far cry from a threat. Obviously, you’ve all agreed that it was an overreaction. I’d say, the entire article is flamewar prone. How can you say something is best?

ur-whale 6y ago

> US-based. Fields, Nobel, Turing, How many of these were actually educated in the US, as in from primary school, and how many came to the US to complete a PhD after having received an education outside of the US?

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bananabiscuit 6y ago

A bit of an overreaction here? I’m pretty sure it’s ok for people to share their personal observations.

systemvoltage 6y ago
I don’t think so. I’ve seen time and again that it leads to completely unpleasant nationalism flame war. Did anyone read the article at all?
- threatofrain 6y ago
  I'm surprised the trajectory of the forum would make you think that way. Also meta-conversation is very dangerous to focus.
  - codegladiator 6y ago
    Meta-meta-conversation is always fine though.

elefanten 6y ago

The commenter said no references, it seemed like an expression of broad opinion/experience, not like a strong declaration of truth.

atoav 6y ago

Why is this provocative? It was certainly not meant as a black and white contrasty "it is always true"-law of nature, bit rather someone describing vague undercurrents based onpersonal experience? Weird overreaction on your side tho.

andrewflnr 6y ago

"European and American universities both have strengths and weaknesses" is not that provocative.

ska 6y ago

> They’re overwhelmingly US-based. Fields, Nobel, Turing, etc This isn't really clear. For example, EU has generated about twice the fields medal recipients as the US. That's reasonable in terms of roughly equivalent populations, but does beg the question that if someone grows up in Europe, trains and spends early career in Europe, but ends up a professor in USA before being given a Nobel prize, where do you count the result?

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