>The scientist you interacted with was probably a very nice person—but just didn’t seem to think that the animals they experimented on were very sentient and pr

>The scientist you interacted with was probably a very nice person—but just didn’t seem to think that the animals they experimented on were very sentient and probably in enormous distress. just a bit more than 100 years ago they were cutting dogs and cats alive without anesthesia. and that is one of the popular calf castration methods which is still done without anesthesia even today - as described it is painful "only" the first 12-36 hours (left to your imagination what the calves feel during the next several weeks as the testicles and scrotum slowly necrotize and ultimately fall off) https://www.amazon.com/calf-bander/s?k=calf+bander https://www.amazon.com/calf-bander/s?k=calf+bander