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Or poison, cigarettes, alcohol, porn, fast food… There are a host of things parents have the responsibility of shielding their kids from. Trying to cancel out

Or poison, cigarettes, alcohol, porn, fast food… There are a host of things parents have the responsibility of shielding their kids from. Trying to cancel out harms in the world is futile.

the-smug-one 6y ago
Are you going to be launching cigarettes for kids tomorrow?
- azinman2 6y ago
  I didn’t realize this was a totally separate product. I’m mixed in that probably many kids are already using Instagram as is… I guess I go back to parent responsibility (although we probably all lose through the tragedy of the commons).
  - LegitShady 6y ago
    So that's a yes?
- citruscomputing 6y ago
  You mean like Juul?
foepys 6y ago
Cigarettes, alcohol, and porn is actually regulated. In the US alcohol is even so tightly regulated that they bind infrastructure budgets to the legal drinking age of 21.
- kube-system 6y ago
  It's so highly regulated in some parts of the US that certain types of alcohol are sold exclusively by the government.
quietbritishjim 6y ago
Those are mostly examples of things that are _not_ the exclusive responsibility of parents. For example, selling alcohol to children (at least here in the UK) is a criminal offence, not something you can just say "well it's the parents' fault for not stopping them coming into my shop to buy". Pre-internet, that was even true of porn. They seem to support the opposite point than you make in your second paragraph.
- nemo44x 6y ago
  A lot of people keep alcohol, poisons, guns, knives, etc in the house. It is the parents job to ensure their kids don’t have access to these things. You’re a bad parent if you don’t prevent your kids from harming themselves.
hnbad 6y ago
If poison, cigarettes, alcohol and porn were explicitly marketed towards children, you'd have a point there. Note that cigarettes and alcohol were both implicitly and explicitly marketed towards children in the past until governments stepped in and there have been steps to attempt to crack down on fast food. > Trying to cancel out harms in the world is futile. You missed the word "all" there but I don't see how that statement is relevant when discussing one specific new harm which we can literally cancel out before it sees the light of day.

Or poison, cigarettes, alcohol, porn, fast food… There are a host of things parents have the responsibility of shielding their kids from. Trying to cancel out harms in the world is futile.

the-smug-one 6y ago

Are you going to be launching cigarettes for kids tomorrow?

azinman2 6y ago
I didn’t realize this was a totally separate product. I’m mixed in that probably many kids are already using Instagram as is… I guess I go back to parent responsibility (although we probably all lose through the tragedy of the commons).
- LegitShady 6y ago
  So that's a yes?
citruscomputing 6y ago
You mean like Juul?

foepys 6y ago

Cigarettes, alcohol, and porn is actually regulated. In the US alcohol is even so tightly regulated that they bind infrastructure budgets to the legal drinking age of 21.

kube-system 6y ago
It's so highly regulated in some parts of the US that certain types of alcohol are sold exclusively by the government.

quietbritishjim 6y ago

Those are mostly examples of things that are _not_ the exclusive responsibility of parents. For example, selling alcohol to children (at least here in the UK) is a criminal offence, not something you can just say "well it's the parents' fault for not stopping them coming into my shop to buy". Pre-internet, that was even true of porn. They seem to support the opposite point than you make in your second paragraph.

nemo44x 6y ago
A lot of people keep alcohol, poisons, guns, knives, etc in the house. It is the parents job to ensure their kids don’t have access to these things. You’re a bad parent if you don’t prevent your kids from harming themselves.

hnbad 6y ago

If poison, cigarettes, alcohol and porn were explicitly marketed towards children, you'd have a point there. Note that cigarettes and alcohol were both implicitly and explicitly marketed towards children in the past until governments stepped in and there have been steps to attempt to crack down on fast food. > Trying to cancel out harms in the world is futile. You missed the word "all" there but I don't see how that statement is relevant when discussing one specific new harm which we can literally cancel out before it sees the light of day.