My response to this is straight from your own post: "It's also foolish to believe that history is a linear trajectory towards something good or better". You see

My response to this is straight from your own post: "It's also foolish to believe that history is a linear trajectory towards something good or better". You seem to state that we need violent revolution to get from one local optimum to a "better" one, but violent revolution can also lead us to worse ones. It's foolish to believe that we actually know a surefire to fix injustice, or to build a system which will not contain "flaws" in its power structure. It's even more foolish to believe we can build a system with no power structure, like certain movements do. On the topic of injustice: While I agree that you can't overthrow injustice without some form of violence, my issue here is that people often create more and bigger injustice when trying to fix injustice, because the bad in the status quo blinds them to the good. People often take things for granted which are not obvious and only realize they had them when they lose them. Also, justice is subjective. There are visions of justice where you can create a "more just" world where everyone is worse off. What then? --- Addendum: I'd just like to say that I appreciate that you clearly put effort into your arguments, and actually talked things out with me even though we clearly hold different view points. I probably won't reply to this thread anymore, as I think I've said all I have to contribute to this topic for now. I will read if you reply, though. Thank you for debating this complex issue openly with me.