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Affordable -access- to healthcare should be a human right. No given doctor has to treat you (though there are a list of reasons a doctor can't refuse treatment)

Affordable -access- to healthcare should be a human right. No given doctor has to treat you (though there are a list of reasons a doctor can't refuse treatment), same as with every other profession. But inability to pay should not prevent you from seeking and finding treatment, and being treated should not mean bankruptcy.

willcipriano 6y ago
>But inability to pay should not preclude you from seeking treatment. That's the sticky bit if you think about it. Not all, but many women and men get into sex work due to lack of other options, with all that in context it would seem that there is a suggestion that you have a human right to sleep with disadvantaged women or men at government expense. If no disadvantaged people exist then I presume it would be the governments role to create them. This quickly descends into madness.
- lostcolony 6y ago
  How disadvantaged are we talking about? Making ends meet, or being well off? Because I got into software engineering because it was the best paying option available to me that fit into my morals and ethics. I'd imagine that's also what got people into being doctors, social workers, etc. I'm not sure how sex work in this case is different. In fact, from the article, it sounds like it requires training; even if the government provided that to anyone, how is that different from any other governmental work program? How is it different from joining the armed forces? How would both be different if we also addressed poverty via a UBI or similar? You're looking at sex work as it is now, a socially unacceptable option open to nearly everyone as a last resort. This categorically changes it to be a form of social work; I don't think the same stigmas and contexts apply.
- airhead969 6y ago
  If someone isn't forced into a job and they make the choice to do so, telling them they don't have the right to make that choice is arrogant and moralizing BS. MYOB.
  - willcipriano 6y ago
    >telling them they don't have the right to make that choice is arrogant and moralizing BS I never did this and was quite clear that some choose this willingly vs making the choice due to drug addiction or some other tragic reason. However, taking advantage of another persons drug addiction and getting them to sleep with you in exchange for more money to buy the drug is the same thing as taking advantage of someone's down syndrome in exchange for money to buy candy. It simply isn't something that someone who isn't a predator does.
airhead969 6y ago
Incidentally, I was refused treatment by a doctor for a no exam required condition because of their magical religious beliefs discriminating against gender.

willcipriano 6y ago

>But inability to pay should not preclude you from seeking treatment. That's the sticky bit if you think about it. Not all, but many women and men get into sex work due to lack of other options, with all that in context it would seem that there is a suggestion that you have a human right to sleep with disadvantaged women or men at government expense. If no disadvantaged people exist then I presume it would be the governments role to create them. This quickly descends into madness.

lostcolony 6y ago
How disadvantaged are we talking about? Making ends meet, or being well off? Because I got into software engineering because it was the best paying option available to me that fit into my morals and ethics. I'd imagine that's also what got people into being doctors, social workers, etc. I'm not sure how sex work in this case is different. In fact, from the article, it sounds like it requires training; even if the government provided that to anyone, how is that different from any other governmental work program? How is it different from joining the armed forces? How would both be different if we also addressed poverty via a UBI or similar? You're looking at sex work as it is now, a socially unacceptable option open to nearly everyone as a last resort. This categorically changes it to be a form of social work; I don't think the same stigmas and contexts apply.
airhead969 6y ago
If someone isn't forced into a job and they make the choice to do so, telling them they don't have the right to make that choice is arrogant and moralizing BS. MYOB.
- willcipriano 6y ago
  >telling them they don't have the right to make that choice is arrogant and moralizing BS I never did this and was quite clear that some choose this willingly vs making the choice due to drug addiction or some other tragic reason. However, taking advantage of another persons drug addiction and getting them to sleep with you in exchange for more money to buy the drug is the same thing as taking advantage of someone's down syndrome in exchange for money to buy candy. It simply isn't something that someone who isn't a predator does.

airhead969 6y ago

Incidentally, I was refused treatment by a doctor for a no exam required condition because of their magical religious beliefs discriminating against gender.