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> How does literally every single other platform manage this? AFAIK none of Android, Windows, the many Unix-like OSs, even Apple's MacOs have such restrictions

by zepto 6y ago

> How does literally every single other platform manage this? AFAIK none of Android, Windows, the many Unix-like OSs, even Apple's MacOs have such restrictions on browser apps. They don’t. All of those platforms are less secure than iOS.

traib 6y ago
> All of those platforms are less secure than iOS. Do you have a source for this statement, specifically in relation to browsers? Let's consider Android. I wouldn't automatically assume that using Safari on iOS is more (or less) secure than using Chrome or Firefox on Android - they are all provided by well known tech companies with years of expertise building browsers and a focus on security.
- zepto 6y ago
  Android is definitely less secure than iOS, you can easily verify this by googling. Controlling the execution environment is part of iOS’s defense in depth strategy. Focussing on browsers alone is a red herring. You have to look at the whole system. It’s true that Google or Mozilla may be able to produce an equivalent level of security in a browser engine, but that’s a false comparison, since alternative browsers are not limited to just these companies.
  - jonny_eh 6y ago
    > Android is definitely less secure than iOS, you can easily verify this by googling. You can also verify that the world is run by lizard people by googling.
  - tick_tock_tick 6y ago
    iOS still runs main parts of its text rendering in kernel space. It is by definition less secure than almost any other operating system.
    - zepto 6y ago
      And yet somehow isn’t as plagued by botnets and banking Trojans etc.
heavyset_go 6y ago
And yet iOS exploits are cheaper than Android exploits because iOS exploits are so plentiful[1][2]. [1] https://www.theregister.com/2020/05/14/zerodium_ios_flaws/ https://www.theregister.com/2020/05/14/zerodium_ios_flaws/ [2] http://zerodium.com/program.html http://zerodium.com/program.html
- deleted 6y ago
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- zepto 6y ago
  That’s a function of unsold inventory and the usefulness of exploits and nothing to do with the number of possible exploits.

by zepto 6y ago

traib 6y ago

> All of those platforms are less secure than iOS. Do you have a source for this statement, specifically in relation to browsers? Let's consider Android. I wouldn't automatically assume that using Safari on iOS is more (or less) secure than using Chrome or Firefox on Android - they are all provided by well known tech companies with years of expertise building browsers and a focus on security.

zepto 6y ago
Android is definitely less secure than iOS, you can easily verify this by googling. Controlling the execution environment is part of iOS’s defense in depth strategy. Focussing on browsers alone is a red herring. You have to look at the whole system. It’s true that Google or Mozilla may be able to produce an equivalent level of security in a browser engine, but that’s a false comparison, since alternative browsers are not limited to just these companies.
- jonny_eh 6y ago
  > Android is definitely less secure than iOS, you can easily verify this by googling. You can also verify that the world is run by lizard people by googling.
- tick_tock_tick 6y ago
  iOS still runs main parts of its text rendering in kernel space. It is by definition less secure than almost any other operating system.
  - zepto 6y ago
    And yet somehow isn’t as plagued by botnets and banking Trojans etc.

heavyset_go 6y ago

And yet iOS exploits are cheaper than Android exploits because iOS exploits are so plentiful[1][2]. [1] https://www.theregister.com/2020/05/14/zerodium_ios_flaws/ https://www.theregister.com/2020/05/14/zerodium_ios_flaws/ [2] http://zerodium.com/program.html http://zerodium.com/program.html

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zepto 6y ago
That’s a function of unsold inventory and the usefulness of exploits and nothing to do with the number of possible exploits.