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You don't have any moral qualms against supporting that kind of government? Homosexuality is illegal and punishable by death, women are charged with extramarita

You don't have any moral qualms against supporting that kind of government? Homosexuality is illegal and punishable by death, women are charged with extramarital sex after being raped, and foreign workers are treated as slaves. There are other things in life than cheap rental and fancy living, even if you don't happen to be personally directly affected. https://www.amnesty.org/en/countries/middle-east-and-north-africa/united-arab-emirates/report-united-arab-emirates/ https://www.amnesty.org/en/countries/middle-east-and-north-a... https://www.hrw.org/middle-east/n-africa/united-arab-emirates https://www.hrw.org/middle-east/n-africa/united-arab-emirate...

baybal2 6y ago
I have. And the biggest moral compromise you will have to take will be living in a city ruled by a man who raises hand on his own family, which in my eyes disqualifies a man being called a man. On other hand life in Dubai can be by far more liberal than in most parts of the world. Anything other than fornicating on the beach probably goes there. Far more people complain about Dubai being a Sodom with hipsters, rather than it being a "puritan Arab kingdom" For whom I have the most pity are by far the Emirati natives. Forced to live in this Disneyland for foreigners under a gunpoint. That's for their legal citizens. It was even a bigger shock for me to know how Emiratis can torment, and keep in destitution their own Arabs just for some "wrong surname" because of some century old matter: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bedoon_(stateless) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bedoon_(stateless)
- realce 6y ago
  > On other hand life in Dubai can be by far more liberal than in most parts of the world. Unless you're poor, gay, a woman, a foreign worker or whoever else the entirely lawless society of SA wishes to execute this week. You're OK with living in a place where there is no actual law and people can be imprisoned or executed with minimal trial. That seems very risky to me.
csomar 6y ago
The US and most of the world does have its own set of issues, though. Many countries also have freedoms on paper but in real life it's another story. If you go by that logic, you can only leave in a select few countries. It's an unfortunate world, but remember that by bringing your culture and ideals, you are actually helping changing the place.
- augusto-moura 6y ago
  This is also a family issue, how the hell am I putting my children to live in a society with a culture like that? What kinda of things will he learn or fear? What he will live at school? How it will find a wife or build a family? It's hard to pass on the things that happen in the middle west culture, it's so different and against a lot of philosophies that I cultivated my whole life. Maybe I'm not prepared enough, but I would hardly bring my family to that situation

baybal2 6y ago

I have. And the biggest moral compromise you will have to take will be living in a city ruled by a man who raises hand on his own family, which in my eyes disqualifies a man being called a man. On other hand life in Dubai can be by far more liberal than in most parts of the world. Anything other than fornicating on the beach probably goes there. Far more people complain about Dubai being a Sodom with hipsters, rather than it being a "puritan Arab kingdom" For whom I have the most pity are by far the Emirati natives. Forced to live in this Disneyland for foreigners under a gunpoint. That's for their legal citizens. It was even a bigger shock for me to know how Emiratis can torment, and keep in destitution their own Arabs just for some "wrong surname" because of some century old matter: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bedoon_(stateless) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bedoon_(stateless)

realce 6y ago
> On other hand life in Dubai can be by far more liberal than in most parts of the world. Unless you're poor, gay, a woman, a foreign worker or whoever else the entirely lawless society of SA wishes to execute this week. You're OK with living in a place where there is no actual law and people can be imprisoned or executed with minimal trial. That seems very risky to me.

csomar 6y ago

The US and most of the world does have its own set of issues, though. Many countries also have freedoms on paper but in real life it's another story. If you go by that logic, you can only leave in a select few countries. It's an unfortunate world, but remember that by bringing your culture and ideals, you are actually helping changing the place.

augusto-moura 6y ago
This is also a family issue, how the hell am I putting my children to live in a society with a culture like that? What kinda of things will he learn or fear? What he will live at school? How it will find a wife or build a family? It's hard to pass on the things that happen in the middle west culture, it's so different and against a lot of philosophies that I cultivated my whole life. Maybe I'm not prepared enough, but I would hardly bring my family to that situation