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smoking in public places. alcohol sold to minors. unlicensed doctors. guns. hard drugs. tanks as private vehicles. old polluting cars. the list is endles

smoking in public places. alcohol sold to minors. unlicensed doctors. guns. hard drugs. tanks as private vehicles. old polluting cars. the list is endless.

Karsteski 5y ago
Hmm... I only agree that two of these should be illegal, which are alcohol sold to minors and tanks as private vehicles. Every other one has many aspects that I don't want a government involved in. But there's a lot to be written about that.
- qJ25D3vAzmfp 5y ago
  I guess you are American from the US. See, the problem is that you are savages, no offense. Of course smoking in public offices must be restricted by the government, which represent the voters and which in turn are elected to govern the State. The public cannot harm the health of the citizens that it has to protect by mandate. If you wanna smoke and harm yourself (I am a smoker myself) do it on private property, away from people that have to be there for reasons beyond their will (for example testify at a trial). Of course the government is the solely ultimate responsible of controlling (i.e. banning for some uses) hard drugs. Who would you put in charge of it? Of course it has to control guns, you can't let it control to private entities that profit from arms, it would be crazy! You would see kids that go to school and shoot other kids. Lucky us nobody in the World has ever thought of not strictly controlling guns! That would be a nightmare! Of course it is the only one who can ban diesel cars from cities and all of the above, you need laws to make it happen, the parliament writes and approves them, it's government's duty to enforce them. Government is not the enemy, government is the average of public opinion that becomes ruling class for a brief period of time depending on how many votes that coalition of ideas and (of course) interests can get from the citizens. The idea that the government is formed by aliens who come from another galaxy to ruin our otherwise beautiful peace and harmony is idiotic at best.
  - Karsteski 5y ago
    First off, I'm not American, nor have I been to the US. Given that you started off with "Americans are savages", I don't really see the point in trying to have any sort of reasonable exchange here...
    - qJ25D3vAzmfp 5y ago
      If it looks like a duck, swims like a duck, and quacks like a duck, then it probably is a duck The definition of the word "savage" from the Cambridge dictionary states savage adjective uk /ˈsæv.ɪdʒ/ us /ˈsæv.ɪdʒ/ extremely violent, wild, or frightening. Americans from USA are savages under that definition. But I'm interested to know why you think that the government shouldn't care about pollution and who actually should.
  - dang 5y ago
    You can't create accounts to pose as separate persons in an argument, and you can't use HN for flamewar like this. Please stop creating accounts to break the site rules with. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
    - qJ25D3vAzmfp 5y ago
      can you please explain me what do you mean?
    - africanboy 5y ago
      WTF happened here, my new comments are all flagged as dead, why??? I swear I have nothing to do with anything you are implying, why should I reply with a different account when I could have used this one? and BTW my comment had positive upvotes! that's not me, why in the hell I am being punished for something I haven't done and had no reason to do???? please reverse your decision, you're making a big mistake here. I have no idea why you assumed that's me, I haven't used my HN account after that comment and looked at it again only today.
      - 5y ago

smoking in public places. alcohol sold to minors. unlicensed doctors. guns. hard drugs. tanks as private vehicles. old polluting cars. the list is endless.

Karsteski 5y ago

Hmm... I only agree that two of these should be illegal, which are alcohol sold to minors and tanks as private vehicles. Every other one has many aspects that I don't want a government involved in. But there's a lot to be written about that.

qJ25D3vAzmfp 5y ago
I guess you are American from the US. See, the problem is that you are savages, no offense. Of course smoking in public offices must be restricted by the government, which represent the voters and which in turn are elected to govern the State. The public cannot harm the health of the citizens that it has to protect by mandate. If you wanna smoke and harm yourself (I am a smoker myself) do it on private property, away from people that have to be there for reasons beyond their will (for example testify at a trial). Of course the government is the solely ultimate responsible of controlling (i.e. banning for some uses) hard drugs. Who would you put in charge of it? Of course it has to control guns, you can't let it control to private entities that profit from arms, it would be crazy! You would see kids that go to school and shoot other kids. Lucky us nobody in the World has ever thought of not strictly controlling guns! That would be a nightmare! Of course it is the only one who can ban diesel cars from cities and all of the above, you need laws to make it happen, the parliament writes and approves them, it's government's duty to enforce them. Government is not the enemy, government is the average of public opinion that becomes ruling class for a brief period of time depending on how many votes that coalition of ideas and (of course) interests can get from the citizens. The idea that the government is formed by aliens who come from another galaxy to ruin our otherwise beautiful peace and harmony is idiotic at best.
- Karsteski 5y ago
  First off, I'm not American, nor have I been to the US. Given that you started off with "Americans are savages", I don't really see the point in trying to have any sort of reasonable exchange here...
  - qJ25D3vAzmfp 5y ago
    If it looks like a duck, swims like a duck, and quacks like a duck, then it probably is a duck The definition of the word "savage" from the Cambridge dictionary states savage adjective uk /ˈsæv.ɪdʒ/ us /ˈsæv.ɪdʒ/ extremely violent, wild, or frightening. Americans from USA are savages under that definition. But I'm interested to know why you think that the government shouldn't care about pollution and who actually should.
- dang 5y ago
  You can't create accounts to pose as separate persons in an argument, and you can't use HN for flamewar like this. Please stop creating accounts to break the site rules with. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
  - qJ25D3vAzmfp 5y ago
    can you please explain me what do you mean?
  - africanboy 5y ago
    WTF happened here, my new comments are all flagged as dead, why??? I swear I have nothing to do with anything you are implying, why should I reply with a different account when I could have used this one? and BTW my comment had positive upvotes! that's not me, why in the hell I am being punished for something I haven't done and had no reason to do???? please reverse your decision, you're making a big mistake here. I have no idea why you assumed that's me, I haven't used my HN account after that comment and looked at it again only today.
    - 5y ago