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> He said that we have created 32 lakh WhatsApp groups (not people). Don't lie man. Not cool at all! He said "Woh isliye hopaya ki hum battis lakh WhatsApp ka

> He said that we have created 32 lakh WhatsApp groups (not people). Don't lie man. Not cool at all! He said "Woh isliye hopaya ki hum battis lakh WhatsApp ka EK group banakar khade the". Which translates to "it happened because we created a WhatsApp group with 32 lakh people in it". You accuse a political party of spreading misinformation and you do that yourself! Did you seriously think you are the only one who knows Hindi in Hacker News and that you can get away with this lie? There is no need to even "listen carefully". It is as audible as it gets. 32 lakh WhatsApp groups is technically crazy to pull off unless done programmatically. And what is the point of 32 lakh WhatsApp groups? It serves no purpose to have so many groups.

r_singh 5y ago
Thanks for correcting me. It was a genuine error and I’m sorry.
- throwaway_s1234 5y ago
  It is alright. Happens to the best of us. Apologies for being harsh. Just sick and tired of seeing leftwing propaganda on Hacker News. Especially against India. Hence created a throwaway account just to protect my identity but still voice my counter. Did not expect you to own up to your mistake. Thanks for doing the right thing. A lot of the international audience here don't know Indian political context and gauge whatever is shown on Western mainstream media to be the reality of things. But when local Indians who know regional language also contribute to that propaganda it pisses me off big time. That is why I was harsh in my comments. Apologize again for being rude.
  - spacemanmatt 5y ago
    > sick and tired of seeing leftwing propaganda on Hacker News "Everyone I don't like is a leftist"
    - throwaway_s1234 5y ago
      > "Everyone I don't like is a leftist" Did you change your comment from something to do with Trump to this? I chose to ignore your original comment because it did not add value to the discussion at hand. Maybe you have a grudge against Trump that you are trying to insert into a discussion on Indian politics. But at least I did not downvote. By making this edit you just proved my point. The fact that you had to change your own comment shows how it was heavily downvoted by your own peers. There is a very narrow line of thought that is appreciated here on HN. Anything that goes away from that narrow line of thought gets downvoted and flagged. Congratulations on experiencing it firsthand.
- thunderbong 5y ago
  Thank you. Politeness is an underrated quality online.
krisgenre 5y ago
32 lakh people in a WhatsApp group? or is this supposed to mean that they created various groups and the total count of all the members is 32 lakh?
- throwaway_s1234 5y ago
  > or is this supposed to mean that they created various groups and the total count of all the members is 32 lakh? I am sure he meant this. But I am more interested in translating what he said verbatim than add/remove meaning from it. What you interpret it as is up to you. But a translator should be true to what the source said and not add/remove from that. But to actually give more context to the video itself: Amit Shah (the speaker in the video) says that one of the members in the group sent a fake message saying that a local political opponent slapped his father (who is also a politician and an erstwhile Chief Minister). That message spread like wildfire. And many people of that State (where the election was taking place) did not take kindly to that bit of story (slapping your father is the worst thing you can do in an Indian context). So Amit Shah says that even though that message worked to the ruling party's advantage, that should never have been done. He told them (the workers of the party present in the gathering) to not indulge in such activities and instead spread the truth. After that he makes that statement that the message was spread so fast only because they have a group of 32 lakh volunteers/party workers in it who spread the message. Now obviously one group cannot have 32 lakh members. Neither is Amit Shah so tech savvy that he will moderate/admin the groups. I am sure he doesn't even know/have the time to create a WhatsApp group. There is an IT wing that manages the show. So when he says 32 lakh members in a group, you should interpret it as many groups but total count of 32 lakh. Now it definitely isn't 32 lakh groups (that would be crazy and pointless). So only when you take the entire speech into account will you understand the context in which this was said. But if you cherry pick, you can derive any meaning you like.
  - baybal2 5y ago
    I believe Whatsapp simply croaks on 3000+ people groups
    - 5y ago
thunderbong 5y ago
Please read the guidelines - https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html#comments https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html#comments

r_singh 5y ago

Thanks for correcting me. It was a genuine error and I’m sorry.

throwaway_s1234 5y ago
It is alright. Happens to the best of us. Apologies for being harsh. Just sick and tired of seeing leftwing propaganda on Hacker News. Especially against India. Hence created a throwaway account just to protect my identity but still voice my counter. Did not expect you to own up to your mistake. Thanks for doing the right thing. A lot of the international audience here don't know Indian political context and gauge whatever is shown on Western mainstream media to be the reality of things. But when local Indians who know regional language also contribute to that propaganda it pisses me off big time. That is why I was harsh in my comments. Apologize again for being rude.
- spacemanmatt 5y ago
  > sick and tired of seeing leftwing propaganda on Hacker News "Everyone I don't like is a leftist"
  - throwaway_s1234 5y ago
    > "Everyone I don't like is a leftist" Did you change your comment from something to do with Trump to this? I chose to ignore your original comment because it did not add value to the discussion at hand. Maybe you have a grudge against Trump that you are trying to insert into a discussion on Indian politics. But at least I did not downvote. By making this edit you just proved my point. The fact that you had to change your own comment shows how it was heavily downvoted by your own peers. There is a very narrow line of thought that is appreciated here on HN. Anything that goes away from that narrow line of thought gets downvoted and flagged. Congratulations on experiencing it firsthand.
thunderbong 5y ago
Thank you. Politeness is an underrated quality online.

krisgenre 5y ago

32 lakh people in a WhatsApp group? or is this supposed to mean that they created various groups and the total count of all the members is 32 lakh?

throwaway_s1234 5y ago
> or is this supposed to mean that they created various groups and the total count of all the members is 32 lakh? I am sure he meant this. But I am more interested in translating what he said verbatim than add/remove meaning from it. What you interpret it as is up to you. But a translator should be true to what the source said and not add/remove from that. But to actually give more context to the video itself: Amit Shah (the speaker in the video) says that one of the members in the group sent a fake message saying that a local political opponent slapped his father (who is also a politician and an erstwhile Chief Minister). That message spread like wildfire. And many people of that State (where the election was taking place) did not take kindly to that bit of story (slapping your father is the worst thing you can do in an Indian context). So Amit Shah says that even though that message worked to the ruling party's advantage, that should never have been done. He told them (the workers of the party present in the gathering) to not indulge in such activities and instead spread the truth. After that he makes that statement that the message was spread so fast only because they have a group of 32 lakh volunteers/party workers in it who spread the message. Now obviously one group cannot have 32 lakh members. Neither is Amit Shah so tech savvy that he will moderate/admin the groups. I am sure he doesn't even know/have the time to create a WhatsApp group. There is an IT wing that manages the show. So when he says 32 lakh members in a group, you should interpret it as many groups but total count of 32 lakh. Now it definitely isn't 32 lakh groups (that would be crazy and pointless). So only when you take the entire speech into account will you understand the context in which this was said. But if you cherry pick, you can derive any meaning you like.
- baybal2 5y ago
  I believe Whatsapp simply croaks on 3000+ people groups
  - 5y ago

thunderbong 5y ago

Please read the guidelines - https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html#comments https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html#comments