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A story about hunter biden is not the same as the material itself, which might have been illegal. Just like obtaining and publishing Trump's tax returns were i

by zpeti 6y ago

A story about hunter biden is not the same as the material itself, which might have been illegal. Just like obtaining and publishing Trump's tax returns were illegal, but talking about it isn't, and they most certainly weren't wiped from Facebook and Twitter. Which is an extremely easy example of just what double standards there were during the election. Also - how do you know it was illegal? Has a court ruled so? Are you basically expecting Facebook and Twitter to know what and what isn't illegal in real time, and act upon that? To know what a court might rule before there's even been a court case? What your suggesting is ridiculous.

hnbad 6y ago
> obtaining and publishing Trump's tax returns were illegal > how do you know it was illegal? Has a court ruled so? Are you basically expecting Facebook and Twitter to know what and what isn't illegal in real time, and act upon that? To know what a court might rule before there's even been a court case? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ PS: If you don't see the difference between yellow press trying to create a moral panic over a candidate's son engaging in behavior the incumbent has been documented to have engaged in himself, and news sites covering a candidate's tax returns which were leaked after the candidate spent years claiming he wanted to publish them but couldn't for legal reasons, I have nothing to say to you. I don't even like Biden but its pretty clear the most tangible criticism based on the Hunter Biden laptop situation was that the leaked sex tapes were previously used to blackmail the candidate, which clearly ceased to be relevant the instance they were published unless the claim was that this had influenced his actions as a VP, which none of these sites dared to assert.
- pessimizer 6y ago
  > If you don't see the difference between yellow press trying to create a moral panic over a candidate's son engaging in behavior the incumbent has been documented to have engaged in himself, and news sites covering a candidate's tax returns which were leaked after the candidate spent years claiming he wanted to publish them but couldn't for legal reasons, I have nothing to say to you. You should try. Painting an argument as reprehensible to make while giving the impression that argument is simple to counter by people who are not bad or stupider than you is not a good habit. Is there some premise that people have to share with you in be worth having a discussion with? Is it too much to ask for you to make that premise explicit? Why would you cite the extensive coverage of Trump's every breath and typo as a reason not to cover Hunter Biden? What does a shrug emoticon add? I don't understand your argument. Biden has been accused of family-related corruption. What do Trump's ultimately completely un-notable taxes (other than the massive tax refund given to him by the Obama administration after the housing derivative bubble burst) have to do with Biden's son?
boomboomsubban 6y ago
The Hunter Biden story violated Twitter's ToS doxxing rules at the time, by including his personal email address which was specifically mentioned in the rules. To my knowledge, Trump's tax returns may seem comparably personal but didn't include any of the identifying information to get them flagged. That was Twitter's justification at least. I think they mishandled the situation terribly, and they somewhat agree by their ToS change after the event.
- pessimizer 6y ago
  > Trump's tax returns may seem comparably personal but didn't include any of the identifying information to get them flagged. Sometimes we think that GPS locations tied to a specific android installation is totalitarianism, sometimes we think that someone's tax returns can be checked by the official flaggers and found not to contain any identifying information.

by zpeti 6y ago

hnbad 6y ago

> obtaining and publishing Trump's tax returns were illegal > how do you know it was illegal? Has a court ruled so? Are you basically expecting Facebook and Twitter to know what and what isn't illegal in real time, and act upon that? To know what a court might rule before there's even been a court case? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ PS: If you don't see the difference between yellow press trying to create a moral panic over a candidate's son engaging in behavior the incumbent has been documented to have engaged in himself, and news sites covering a candidate's tax returns which were leaked after the candidate spent years claiming he wanted to publish them but couldn't for legal reasons, I have nothing to say to you. I don't even like Biden but its pretty clear the most tangible criticism based on the Hunter Biden laptop situation was that the leaked sex tapes were previously used to blackmail the candidate, which clearly ceased to be relevant the instance they were published unless the claim was that this had influenced his actions as a VP, which none of these sites dared to assert.

pessimizer 6y ago
> If you don't see the difference between yellow press trying to create a moral panic over a candidate's son engaging in behavior the incumbent has been documented to have engaged in himself, and news sites covering a candidate's tax returns which were leaked after the candidate spent years claiming he wanted to publish them but couldn't for legal reasons, I have nothing to say to you. You should try. Painting an argument as reprehensible to make while giving the impression that argument is simple to counter by people who are not bad or stupider than you is not a good habit. Is there some premise that people have to share with you in be worth having a discussion with? Is it too much to ask for you to make that premise explicit? Why would you cite the extensive coverage of Trump's every breath and typo as a reason not to cover Hunter Biden? What does a shrug emoticon add? I don't understand your argument. Biden has been accused of family-related corruption. What do Trump's ultimately completely un-notable taxes (other than the massive tax refund given to him by the Obama administration after the housing derivative bubble burst) have to do with Biden's son?

boomboomsubban 6y ago

The Hunter Biden story violated Twitter's ToS doxxing rules at the time, by including his personal email address which was specifically mentioned in the rules. To my knowledge, Trump's tax returns may seem comparably personal but didn't include any of the identifying information to get them flagged. That was Twitter's justification at least. I think they mishandled the situation terribly, and they somewhat agree by their ToS change after the event.

pessimizer 6y ago
> Trump's tax returns may seem comparably personal but didn't include any of the identifying information to get them flagged. Sometimes we think that GPS locations tied to a specific android installation is totalitarianism, sometimes we think that someone's tax returns can be checked by the official flaggers and found not to contain any identifying information.