Early Java EE was astoundingly bad. It's vastly improved now (from EJB 3 onwards), but still not wonderful. In one job, i used an enterprise framework that act

Early Java EE was astoundingly bad. It's vastly improved now (from EJB 3 onwards), but still not wonderful. In one job, i used an enterprise framework that actually predated Java EE. Several ideas in EE were copied from it. But incredibly, this framework was substantially better than early EE. I believe, because that framework was built by people who actually needed to ship products to customers to pay their bills, which limited the amount of overcomplication and obstruction they could get away with. There was no such limit on Sun's architects.