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Yes, probably if this person has access to Internet and has knowledge of the specialized vocabulary in aviation in a foreign language. Yet I can't imagine myse

Yes, probably if this person has access to Internet and has knowledge of the specialized vocabulary in aviation in a foreign language. Yet I can't imagine myself being able to find the necessary information to hide safely inside a plane doing a long distance flight (and to survive -40° for several hours).

tim333 6y ago
Yeah I guess someone capable of that would also be capable of earning a bit of money and buying a ticket.
- londons_explore 6y ago
  For many people even millions of dollars wouldn't be sufficient. Citizenship in many cases can't be bought. (No birth/id records, criminal past, unlucky country of birth, etc)
  - shakow 6y ago
    With millions of dollars, you can buy convenience passports in e.g. Kazakhstan or Bulgaria. Not the most powerful passports in the world, but enough to get visas for a lot of Western places.
    - quickthrowman 6y ago
      You could get a substantially more useful passport and citizenship (Canadian) by investing $800K CAN in Quebec, not sure why you’d spend millions in Eastern Europe or Central Asia.
      - shakow 6y ago
        I may be wrong, but something tells me that Canada must be much more demanding on the provenance and destinations of these 800k$.
  - pennaMan 6y ago
    Citizenship may take longer but you can for sure buy investor visas
    - lostlogin 6y ago
      It depends where you want to go and what you want to spend. Peter Thiel circumvented a few of New Zealand’s rules in a very short time frame. https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/revealed-how-peter-thiel-got-new-zealand-citizenship/UO6WOVE5D26PAXXCDRTMUPQEW4/ https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/revealed-how-peter-thiel...
  - celticninja 6y ago
    It can be with millions of dollars.
  - deleted 6y ago
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  - aww_dang 6y ago
    Several Caribbean Commonwealth nations are selling citizenship for around $300k USD. Typically this gives you visa on arrival access to western nations. Looks like Dominica reduced costs to 100k or 200k in real estate.
  - Agingcoder 6y ago
    Indeed. However it can be bought in many other cases. Malta (full eu member) essentially sells citizenship for about 600keur. "What price would you put on a passport? - BBC News" https://www.bbc.com/news/business-41013873.amp https://www.bbc.com/news/business-41013873.amp "Everything you need to know about the Malta Passport" https://www.globalcitizensolutions.com/malta-passport/amp/ https://www.globalcitizensolutions.com/malta-passport/amp/ Since Malta is part of shengen space, a Maltese passport is highly valuable.
    - ryanlol 6y ago
      The Maltese citizenship is very difficult to buy since a few years ago.
  - Nextgrid 6y ago
    Stowing away wouldn't give you citizenship either. The key objective here seems to be physical access to the target country (to then remain illegally) which should be doable on touristic visas?
    - bellyfullofbac 6y ago
      Most embassies don't give tourist visas to the jobless poor, because they're aware of the high chance of abuse.
tpmx 6y ago
Mobile Internet access/usage is very common in Kenya now but it wasn't in 2009 when this happened.

tim333 6y ago

Yeah I guess someone capable of that would also be capable of earning a bit of money and buying a ticket.

londons_explore 6y ago
For many people even millions of dollars wouldn't be sufficient. Citizenship in many cases can't be bought. (No birth/id records, criminal past, unlucky country of birth, etc)
- shakow 6y ago
  With millions of dollars, you can buy convenience passports in e.g. Kazakhstan or Bulgaria. Not the most powerful passports in the world, but enough to get visas for a lot of Western places.
  - quickthrowman 6y ago
    You could get a substantially more useful passport and citizenship (Canadian) by investing $800K CAN in Quebec, not sure why you’d spend millions in Eastern Europe or Central Asia.
    - shakow 6y ago
      I may be wrong, but something tells me that Canada must be much more demanding on the provenance and destinations of these 800k$.
- pennaMan 6y ago
  Citizenship may take longer but you can for sure buy investor visas
  - lostlogin 6y ago
    It depends where you want to go and what you want to spend. Peter Thiel circumvented a few of New Zealand’s rules in a very short time frame. https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/revealed-how-peter-thiel-got-new-zealand-citizenship/UO6WOVE5D26PAXXCDRTMUPQEW4/ https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/revealed-how-peter-thiel...
- celticninja 6y ago
  It can be with millions of dollars.
- deleted 6y ago
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- aww_dang 6y ago
  Several Caribbean Commonwealth nations are selling citizenship for around $300k USD. Typically this gives you visa on arrival access to western nations. Looks like Dominica reduced costs to 100k or 200k in real estate.
- Agingcoder 6y ago
  Indeed. However it can be bought in many other cases. Malta (full eu member) essentially sells citizenship for about 600keur. "What price would you put on a passport? - BBC News" https://www.bbc.com/news/business-41013873.amp https://www.bbc.com/news/business-41013873.amp "Everything you need to know about the Malta Passport" https://www.globalcitizensolutions.com/malta-passport/amp/ https://www.globalcitizensolutions.com/malta-passport/amp/ Since Malta is part of shengen space, a Maltese passport is highly valuable.
  - ryanlol 6y ago
    The Maltese citizenship is very difficult to buy since a few years ago.
- Nextgrid 6y ago
  Stowing away wouldn't give you citizenship either. The key objective here seems to be physical access to the target country (to then remain illegally) which should be doable on touristic visas?
  - bellyfullofbac 6y ago
    Most embassies don't give tourist visas to the jobless poor, because they're aware of the high chance of abuse.

tpmx 6y ago

Mobile Internet access/usage is very common in Kenya now but it wasn't in 2009 when this happened.