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That sounds rather rash.

SwimSwimHungry 5y ago
I thought bitcoin wanted to be outside of the traditional banking system? Or are bitcoin fans afraid they won't be able to easily get suckers to pump the coins sky high without the fiat (but mostly unbacked tethers) flowing in?
- afc 5y ago
  I was reading a few of your comments in this thread and just figured I'd point out, as candidly as I can, that you come across as extremely biased against cryptocurrencies, using very manipulative language to advance your position (e.g., anyone who disagrees with you is "part of the circle jerk", Bitcoin fans want to "get suckers to pump the coins sky high", Bitcoin "is a symptom of human greed that must be put in check", etc.). Would you say that your goal is to advance these discussions towards the truth (i.e., to make insightful comments that may be useful)? I'm left with a strong impression that it is, rather, to advance one political position/agenda (cryptocurrencies are evil) as strongly as you can, which is neither intellectually honest nor particularly useful.
  - SwimSwimHungry 5y ago
    Your assumption about me is correct. I am extremely biased against cryptocurrencies. And that's bad how? Do you have a sizable position in these instruments that you are afraid would be affected by my dialogue? And my point about circle jerks is prevalent all over social media. Open your eyes man. The Winklevoss Twins, Jack @ Twitter, Elon Musk. All of them have a vested interest in abusing their influence to push this non-productive asset to new heights, so they can then promote the greater fool theory with impressive effects. These folks, and countless others, are only interested in becoming the new 1% off the backs of others. That's not a great look.
    - bawolff 5y ago
      Have you considered the best way to advance your position is to use logic instead of acting hysterically? I mean, i think i agreed with you more before i read your comments than after.
      - SwimSwimHungry 5y ago
        You might be projecting. I'm not hysterical, just very emphatic about my points.
        sokoloff 5y ago
        I have the same amount of crypto holdings that I had 20 years ago: zero. I’m considering buying some as part of my overall asset allocation at some point, but so far have not as they seem like electronic magic beans in some ways. Bottom line: I’m far from a crypto advocate. I am experiencing your argumentation style in this post as having a significantly greater amount of hysteria than emphasis.
        SwimSwimHungry 5y ago
        After sleeping on this and coming back, I can see where I may have gone a bit off the rails a bit. Though if you read threads from earlier, I was goaded on a bit (with someone mentioning I needed to calm down... Like yeah that's the last thing you want to say to someone you're having a discussion with) Sometimes when the heat is cranked up, flamefesting can be inevitable. I'll try to take more frequent breaks.
    - jude- 5y ago
      I think you should go re-read the HN commenting guidelines: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
      - SwimSwimHungry 5y ago
        I'm pretty sure I've been following the rules. Not sure what you're suggesting here. EDIT: If dang or any other HN moderator wishes to opine on where I'm going wrong, I'm happy to reassess my style and approach going forward, but I try to steer clear of ad hominems.

I thought bitcoin wanted to be outside of the traditional banking system? Or are bitcoin fans afraid they won't be able to easily get suckers to pump the coins sky high without the fiat (but mostly unbacked tethers) flowing in?

afc 5y ago
I was reading a few of your comments in this thread and just figured I'd point out, as candidly as I can, that you come across as extremely biased against cryptocurrencies, using very manipulative language to advance your position (e.g., anyone who disagrees with you is "part of the circle jerk", Bitcoin fans want to "get suckers to pump the coins sky high", Bitcoin "is a symptom of human greed that must be put in check", etc.). Would you say that your goal is to advance these discussions towards the truth (i.e., to make insightful comments that may be useful)? I'm left with a strong impression that it is, rather, to advance one political position/agenda (cryptocurrencies are evil) as strongly as you can, which is neither intellectually honest nor particularly useful.
- SwimSwimHungry 5y ago
  Your assumption about me is correct. I am extremely biased against cryptocurrencies. And that's bad how? Do you have a sizable position in these instruments that you are afraid would be affected by my dialogue? And my point about circle jerks is prevalent all over social media. Open your eyes man. The Winklevoss Twins, Jack @ Twitter, Elon Musk. All of them have a vested interest in abusing their influence to push this non-productive asset to new heights, so they can then promote the greater fool theory with impressive effects. These folks, and countless others, are only interested in becoming the new 1% off the backs of others. That's not a great look.
  - bawolff 5y ago
    Have you considered the best way to advance your position is to use logic instead of acting hysterically? I mean, i think i agreed with you more before i read your comments than after.
    - SwimSwimHungry 5y ago
      You might be projecting. I'm not hysterical, just very emphatic about my points.
      - sokoloff 5y ago
        I have the same amount of crypto holdings that I had 20 years ago: zero. I’m considering buying some as part of my overall asset allocation at some point, but so far have not as they seem like electronic magic beans in some ways. Bottom line: I’m far from a crypto advocate. I am experiencing your argumentation style in this post as having a significantly greater amount of hysteria than emphasis.
        SwimSwimHungry 5y ago
        After sleeping on this and coming back, I can see where I may have gone a bit off the rails a bit. Though if you read threads from earlier, I was goaded on a bit (with someone mentioning I needed to calm down... Like yeah that's the last thing you want to say to someone you're having a discussion with) Sometimes when the heat is cranked up, flamefesting can be inevitable. I'll try to take more frequent breaks.
  - jude- 5y ago
    I think you should go re-read the HN commenting guidelines: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
    - SwimSwimHungry 5y ago
      I'm pretty sure I've been following the rules. Not sure what you're suggesting here. EDIT: If dang or any other HN moderator wishes to opine on where I'm going wrong, I'm happy to reassess my style and approach going forward, but I try to steer clear of ad hominems.