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I like the background & ideas, but I can't get past the name "anti-design." Everything about what the author is saying screams "designing the good life"[1] to m

I like the background & ideas, but I can't get past the name "anti-design." Everything about what the author is saying screams "designing the good life"[1] to me. This is not anti-design, it's design in the employ of deeply human needs. [1] https://www.slideshare.net/dings/designing-the-good-life-ethics-and-user-experience-design https://www.slideshare.net/dings/designing-the-good-life-eth...

learningwebdev 6y ago
Agreed. I would go with something like "pro-human design" or "pro-user design".
- learningwebdev 6y ago
  It's a bit surprising to me that my comment above is the top Google Search result for "pro-user design". I'm surprised both because Google has indexed the comment within 10 minutes and also because I would have expected the term to have been used quite a lot already.
  - loopz 6y ago
    Probably making history as we type here: https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?q=pro%20user%20design&geo=US https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?q=pro%20user%20desi...
  - sebmellen 6y ago
    That really is pretty surprising. Might have to capitalize on this...
    - learningwebdev 6y ago
      I just registered the domain for my first web development company, https://prouserdesign.com https://prouserdesign.com. History in the making! Perhaps this might turn out to be one of those threads that gets reposted to HN years later after a successful IPO... haha. Anybody interested in being a co-founder? ;-)
      - el_dev_hell 6y ago
        You beat me to it! I'm interested in keeping this meme going (in the direction of the original article). Anyone else jumping on the bandwagon? Don't miss out -- this could be the next coinbase thread.
        learningwebdev 6y ago
        > You beat me to it! I would feel bad, but I was the person who seems to have coined the term earlier in this thread, albeit accidentally :-)
        muki 6y ago
        Another meme covering an (at least slightly) overlapping set of guidelines/ideas is "humane technology". Not saying it's the same thing as what all of you mean, but we shouldn't forget that our tools impact non-users as well (i.e. people who never used Uber feel its impact still). https://www.humanetech.com/who-we-are https://www.humanetech.com/who-we-are
      - sebmellen 6y ago
        Nice! Followed you. Reach out via personal email in profile if you’d like to get in touch :)
- a_e_k 6y ago
  "Humane design" is what I was thinking.
- germinalphrase 6y ago
  I would say pro-social design. In this case, pro-social in the human development orientation rather than the dehumanized social media sense.
pizza 6y ago
anti-captological design in reference to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Captology https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Captology
gnicholas 6y ago
"anti-addictive design"?
Abishek_Muthian 6y ago
Just ethical-design could do fine IMO. > can't get addicted to That would also mean not having dopamine injectors like Upvote, Like, Share etc. But these also serve as an important function as a feedback tool. As an experiment I removed public display of vote points from my problem validation platform[1] which is themed on HN. Only the owner of the post, comment can see their points. Apart from removing herd influence from the voting, I feel this has greatly reduced overall negativity i.e. especially discouraging someone from posting their problem however small or silly others might feel it to be. What are the other possible dopamine-inhibitor changes for UI, which can let the users receive feedback without much friction? [1] https://needgap.com https://needgap.com
- bellyfullofbac 6y ago
  Feels like allowing me to gain points would make me check my post/comment habitually, just to see if someone else gave me points. Hah thinking about it in my own context, seeing points gained is addictive because it's like getting encouragement from others.

learningwebdev 6y ago

Agreed. I would go with something like "pro-human design" or "pro-user design".

learningwebdev 6y ago
It's a bit surprising to me that my comment above is the top Google Search result for "pro-user design". I'm surprised both because Google has indexed the comment within 10 minutes and also because I would have expected the term to have been used quite a lot already.
- loopz 6y ago
  Probably making history as we type here: https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?q=pro%20user%20design&geo=US https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?q=pro%20user%20desi...
- sebmellen 6y ago
  That really is pretty surprising. Might have to capitalize on this...
  - learningwebdev 6y ago
    I just registered the domain for my first web development company, https://prouserdesign.com https://prouserdesign.com. History in the making! Perhaps this might turn out to be one of those threads that gets reposted to HN years later after a successful IPO... haha. Anybody interested in being a co-founder? ;-)
    - el_dev_hell 6y ago
      You beat me to it! I'm interested in keeping this meme going (in the direction of the original article). Anyone else jumping on the bandwagon? Don't miss out -- this could be the next coinbase thread.
      - learningwebdev 6y ago
        > You beat me to it! I would feel bad, but I was the person who seems to have coined the term earlier in this thread, albeit accidentally :-)
        muki 6y ago
        Another meme covering an (at least slightly) overlapping set of guidelines/ideas is "humane technology". Not saying it's the same thing as what all of you mean, but we shouldn't forget that our tools impact non-users as well (i.e. people who never used Uber feel its impact still). https://www.humanetech.com/who-we-are https://www.humanetech.com/who-we-are
    - sebmellen 6y ago
      Nice! Followed you. Reach out via personal email in profile if you’d like to get in touch :)
a_e_k 6y ago
"Humane design" is what I was thinking.
germinalphrase 6y ago
I would say pro-social design. In this case, pro-social in the human development orientation rather than the dehumanized social media sense.

pizza 6y ago

anti-captological design in reference to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Captology https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Captology

gnicholas 6y ago

"anti-addictive design"?

Abishek_Muthian 6y ago

Just ethical-design could do fine IMO. > can't get addicted to That would also mean not having dopamine injectors like Upvote, Like, Share etc. But these also serve as an important function as a feedback tool. As an experiment I removed public display of vote points from my problem validation platform[1] which is themed on HN. Only the owner of the post, comment can see their points. Apart from removing herd influence from the voting, I feel this has greatly reduced overall negativity i.e. especially discouraging someone from posting their problem however small or silly others might feel it to be. What are the other possible dopamine-inhibitor changes for UI, which can let the users receive feedback without much friction? [1] https://needgap.com https://needgap.com

bellyfullofbac 6y ago
Feels like allowing me to gain points would make me check my post/comment habitually, just to see if someone else gave me points. Hah thinking about it in my own context, seeing points gained is addictive because it's like getting encouragement from others.