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Aye, my condolances to anyone on Teams who will have to deal with annoying Matrix users. Their client has been a major nuisance to IRC.

viraptor 6y ago
Have you got more details on this? Why do you think matrix users are annoying on IRC bridges?
- superkuh 6y ago
  If a matrix user tries to write something too long for matrix+bridge to handle it will instead just paste a link to a website that shows the users text. Only the link to this web text clip will be sent to IRC. If a matrix user responds to someone their matrix client + bridge will inline copy the previous lines and send it to IRC with their response. Basically, the matrix bridge is extremely spammy even with normal behaviors. The sane thing would be to just break up the message into to parts and send it. The sane thing would be to assume anyone looking at IRC already knows what comment they are responding to and there's no reason to re-post it inline. There are more annoyances but those are what come immediately to mind.
  - ognarb 6y ago
    Afaik there is an option to break messages into multiple parts but it's not enabled by default because it breaks sending code samples
    - jclulow 6y ago
      Yeah honestly I prefer the "automatic pastebin" behaviour, because the alternative is that walls of pasted text end up destroying channels. The Matrix bridge is mostly just doing what we ask regular IRC users to do; viz., use a pastebin for large content.
  - rectang 6y ago
    Are these behaviors set in stone, or might the Matrix-IRC bridge be changed?
    - jakecopp 6y ago
      It looks like they could be fixed as the bridge code is open source. For example here is an issue around messages being split incorrectly: https://github.com/matrix-org/matrix-appservice-irc/issues/1059 https://github.com/matrix-org/matrix-appservice-irc/issues/1...
    - lokedhs 6y ago
      I've used the Matrix bridge to IRC a lot, and no one has complained. Of course, one has to remember to never use edit messages, or use the reply feature. Ideally, these functions should not be available when connected to an IRC channel.
COGlory 6y ago
I have no sympathy for any IT department that enforces Teams upon its peers.

viraptor 6y ago

Have you got more details on this? Why do you think matrix users are annoying on IRC bridges?

superkuh 6y ago
If a matrix user tries to write something too long for matrix+bridge to handle it will instead just paste a link to a website that shows the users text. Only the link to this web text clip will be sent to IRC. If a matrix user responds to someone their matrix client + bridge will inline copy the previous lines and send it to IRC with their response. Basically, the matrix bridge is extremely spammy even with normal behaviors. The sane thing would be to just break up the message into to parts and send it. The sane thing would be to assume anyone looking at IRC already knows what comment they are responding to and there's no reason to re-post it inline. There are more annoyances but those are what come immediately to mind.
- ognarb 6y ago
  Afaik there is an option to break messages into multiple parts but it's not enabled by default because it breaks sending code samples
  - jclulow 6y ago
    Yeah honestly I prefer the "automatic pastebin" behaviour, because the alternative is that walls of pasted text end up destroying channels. The Matrix bridge is mostly just doing what we ask regular IRC users to do; viz., use a pastebin for large content.
- rectang 6y ago
  Are these behaviors set in stone, or might the Matrix-IRC bridge be changed?
  - jakecopp 6y ago
    It looks like they could be fixed as the bridge code is open source. For example here is an issue around messages being split incorrectly: https://github.com/matrix-org/matrix-appservice-irc/issues/1059 https://github.com/matrix-org/matrix-appservice-irc/issues/1...
  - lokedhs 6y ago
    I've used the Matrix bridge to IRC a lot, and no one has complained. Of course, one has to remember to never use edit messages, or use the reply feature. Ideally, these functions should not be available when connected to an IRC channel.

COGlory 6y ago

I have no sympathy for any IT department that enforces Teams upon its peers.