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Since this remains a claim in the article, I think my comment remains a reasonable contribution, even after the title has been changed. Please consider unflaggi

by ouid 6y ago

Since this remains a claim in the article, I think my comment remains a reasonable contribution, even after the title has been changed. Please consider unflagging it.

dang 6y ago
It's not flagged, but I marked it off topic and collapsed it, because the subthread it led to is so bad. That's as much the fault of the responses to your comment as the comment itself, but these things are related. A one-liner about what you despise isn't a substantive comment, and a low-value, off-topic subthread is the expected outcome. https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&sort=byDate&type=comment&query=%22expected%20value%22%20by:dang https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&sor...
- ouid 6y ago
  I disagree with you that it is off-topic, and the comment itself has nearly as many upvotes as the article. The comment is short because it the problem with the technology is a simple to describe deception. Many good comments are short.
  - dang 6y ago
    You can't go by upvotes alone. Indignation attracts them. Indeed, indignation generates more upvoteage than intellectual interest does—such is how we're wired. The job of moderation is to have someone paying enough attention to nudge the system out of the failure modes it gets into by default. https://hn.algolia.com/?query=%22upvotes%20alone%22%20by:dang&dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&sort=byDate&type=comment https://hn.algolia.com/?query=%22upvotes%20alone%22%20by:dan... Many good comments are short, but short + indignant + inflammatory equals flamebait, which is not good. Also, generic tangents are not good, i.e. taking the thread away from the specifics of the story into something else which is more generic and therefore more repetitive. Worst of all, generic ideological tangents are basically always flamebait. I'd say the comment at least dipped a toe in that. https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&sort=byDate&type=comment&query=generic%20discussion%20by:dang https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&sor... https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&sort=byDate&type=comment&query=generic%20ideolog%20by:dang https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&sor...

by ouid 6y ago

Since this remains a claim in the article, I think my comment remains a reasonable contribution, even after the title has been changed. Please consider unflagging it.

dang 6y ago

It's not flagged, but I marked it off topic and collapsed it, because the subthread it led to is so bad. That's as much the fault of the responses to your comment as the comment itself, but these things are related. A one-liner about what you despise isn't a substantive comment, and a low-value, off-topic subthread is the expected outcome. https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&sort=byDate&type=comment&query=%22expected%20value%22%20by:dang https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&sor...

ouid 6y ago
I disagree with you that it is off-topic, and the comment itself has nearly as many upvotes as the article. The comment is short because it the problem with the technology is a simple to describe deception. Many good comments are short.
- dang 6y ago
  You can't go by upvotes alone. Indignation attracts them. Indeed, indignation generates more upvoteage than intellectual interest does—such is how we're wired. The job of moderation is to have someone paying enough attention to nudge the system out of the failure modes it gets into by default. https://hn.algolia.com/?query=%22upvotes%20alone%22%20by:dang&dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&sort=byDate&type=comment https://hn.algolia.com/?query=%22upvotes%20alone%22%20by:dan... Many good comments are short, but short + indignant + inflammatory equals flamebait, which is not good. Also, generic tangents are not good, i.e. taking the thread away from the specifics of the story into something else which is more generic and therefore more repetitive. Worst of all, generic ideological tangents are basically always flamebait. I'd say the comment at least dipped a toe in that. https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&sort=byDate&type=comment&query=generic%20discussion%20by:dang https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&sor... https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&sort=byDate&type=comment&query=generic%20ideolog%20by:dang https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&sor...