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If it's B2B, it's easier for business customers to get a once-a-year expense paid than to get authorization for a monthly charge to a corporate card. Many organ

If it's B2B, it's easier for business customers to get a once-a-year expense paid than to get authorization for a monthly charge to a corporate card. Many organizations don't like having their corporate card numbers enrolled in open-ended recurring charge plans.

bjornsing 6y ago
Yup. Also if you’re in a more bureaucratic jurisdiction (like Sweden, where I am) then the bookkeeping of monthly charges can be more expensive than the SaaS.
throwaway_23124 6y ago
I see. My product is somewhat in between B2B and B2C (i.e. plenty of regular folks subscribing for their personal use, but also plenty of companies using it). Perhaps this is a strong signal in favor of price segmentation to make future B2B customers more than personal users?
- stonesweep 6y ago
  B2C random internet user here, it's more complex than that for me and not always about price. I'd say the thoughts go something like this: - is this a product that involves a lot of personal time to get started with and migrate away from? (example: cloud hosting for files and photos)? With this type of product, I'm going to spend more time on the initial 30 day evaluation, and if it suits my needs then I go right for the (multi)year contract. The personal investment is large (get all those photos uploaded, e.g.) so my chances of leaving after a few months are statistically unlikely. - is this a product that I can walk away from with no real loss? (music streaming service) well this a service which quality can vary month over month, I'm more likely to use monthly pricing just so I can cancel at any time if I don't like it. I have no real investment to your brand, yeah it's nice but there's 100 others out there I can move too easily. Usually with a multi-year discount, I'll buy the first year just to be sure and if I still like it after the first year, I'll buy multiple years. Just so I never have to worry about randomly missing a payment or somehow "losing" it (my login, my access, my files, etc.) but balance that against "how long will this company be around, really?" - it's a sense of security over time because I've invested a lot of personal time into the product. Walking away is not in my plans at the time. Third reason that doesn't fit for you but is also a thought: is this a donation to (open source project)? Will I give them more money - less recurring middle-man processing fees - by paying one lump yearly sum instead of donating monthly? I use Liberapay for some FOSS donations and they tell you to do this straightaway, one lump sum is better for the receiver than monthlies.
- ska 6y ago
  > Perhaps this is a strong signal in favor of price segmentation to make future B2B customers more than personal users? Only if you can differentiate value meaningfully also. And I don't think it's a strong signal of anything.
noodle 6y ago
This is entirely dependent on the business and the pricing of the product. Monthly SaaS was basically crafted in order to bypass the procurement process, to make it easier for business customers to buy software on the corporate card. Part of pricing a b2b product is to understand the procurement process as well. A lot of b2b products have price breaks built around common procurement limits (i.e., 249/mo and 499/mo because common customer single transaction procurement limits are 250 or 500)

bjornsing 6y ago

Yup. Also if you’re in a more bureaucratic jurisdiction (like Sweden, where I am) then the bookkeeping of monthly charges can be more expensive than the SaaS.

throwaway_23124 6y ago

I see. My product is somewhat in between B2B and B2C (i.e. plenty of regular folks subscribing for their personal use, but also plenty of companies using it). Perhaps this is a strong signal in favor of price segmentation to make future B2B customers more than personal users?

stonesweep 6y ago
B2C random internet user here, it's more complex than that for me and not always about price. I'd say the thoughts go something like this: - is this a product that involves a lot of personal time to get started with and migrate away from? (example: cloud hosting for files and photos)? With this type of product, I'm going to spend more time on the initial 30 day evaluation, and if it suits my needs then I go right for the (multi)year contract. The personal investment is large (get all those photos uploaded, e.g.) so my chances of leaving after a few months are statistically unlikely. - is this a product that I can walk away from with no real loss? (music streaming service) well this a service which quality can vary month over month, I'm more likely to use monthly pricing just so I can cancel at any time if I don't like it. I have no real investment to your brand, yeah it's nice but there's 100 others out there I can move too easily. Usually with a multi-year discount, I'll buy the first year just to be sure and if I still like it after the first year, I'll buy multiple years. Just so I never have to worry about randomly missing a payment or somehow "losing" it (my login, my access, my files, etc.) but balance that against "how long will this company be around, really?" - it's a sense of security over time because I've invested a lot of personal time into the product. Walking away is not in my plans at the time. Third reason that doesn't fit for you but is also a thought: is this a donation to (open source project)? Will I give them more money - less recurring middle-man processing fees - by paying one lump yearly sum instead of donating monthly? I use Liberapay for some FOSS donations and they tell you to do this straightaway, one lump sum is better for the receiver than monthlies.
ska 6y ago
> Perhaps this is a strong signal in favor of price segmentation to make future B2B customers more than personal users? Only if you can differentiate value meaningfully also. And I don't think it's a strong signal of anything.

noodle 6y ago

This is entirely dependent on the business and the pricing of the product. Monthly SaaS was basically crafted in order to bypass the procurement process, to make it easier for business customers to buy software on the corporate card. Part of pricing a b2b product is to understand the procurement process as well. A lot of b2b products have price breaks built around common procurement limits (i.e., 249/mo and 499/mo because common customer single transaction procurement limits are 250 or 500)