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Apple doesn't really judge on how "poor" the app is. Simply put, follow their guidelines and submit a working app..and no matter how shit it is it'll be accepte

Apple doesn't really judge on how "poor" the app is. Simply put, follow their guidelines and submit a working app..and no matter how shit it is it'll be accepted. Case in point: all those insane 99 cent Project Gutenberg books, TripLog/1040. (on second thought, I could think of a lot of apps that don't deserve to be on the app store, like developers who steal Apple sample code and charge for it. and this moron who has a $1000 app. but neither are breaking any agreements. doh.)

jrockway 18y ago
That's an unfair low blow to TripLog/1040. I think it's clear that while its UI isn't exactly a work of art, it's a useful app that a lot of people like and will pay money for. That doesn't really compare to a free ebook.
- silencio 18y ago
  I disagree. I actually have less of a problem with the 99 cent gutenberg book guys (at least they're paying the royalties). I don't have a problem with TripLog/1040 the application as much as I do with the developer who felt the need to ignore advice and mockups from other developers/designers instead of having an actual discussion that doesn't reek of his "I have $x years of experience: I'm right" attitude. And well, if you read the reviews and ignore the ones talking about how it's a shitty UI and the developer is charging too much, people who seem to be actual customers have a thing or two to say about the UI and how they'd like some changes. The dev at least attempted to make some changes (like that cyan eyesore of a background color). For that maybe he redeemed himself a bit. I have been in a position like his before and had a design of mine crucified. I didn't go all "screw you you're wrong" at the people who told me so. I tried to approach it without being offended too much that they were ripping apart my work, and I asked about what kind of changes I should make. And I made some of them, and it came out better in the end. Lastly, I might note that one of Apple's criteria for getting accepted to the App Store was HIG compliance. This guy was far from it and still is. I guess they're just ignoring that right now.
  - jrockway 18y ago
    Lastly, I might note that one of Apple's criteria for getting accepted to the App Store was HIG compliance. This guy was far from it and still is. I guess they're just ignoring that right now. FWIW, most of Apple's apps don't conform to their HIG either.
    - silencio 18y ago
      Touché. But they do a better job of designing their apps regardless. I'm curious if anyone's released a similar app with a better UI. I'm almost tempted..I could see how there can be some improvements. I can't imagine being able to use the current triplog UI without some trouble and a good reading of the manual.

jrockway 18y ago

That's an unfair low blow to TripLog/1040. I think it's clear that while its UI isn't exactly a work of art, it's a useful app that a lot of people like and will pay money for. That doesn't really compare to a free ebook.

silencio 18y ago
I disagree. I actually have less of a problem with the 99 cent gutenberg book guys (at least they're paying the royalties). I don't have a problem with TripLog/1040 the application as much as I do with the developer who felt the need to ignore advice and mockups from other developers/designers instead of having an actual discussion that doesn't reek of his "I have $x years of experience: I'm right" attitude. And well, if you read the reviews and ignore the ones talking about how it's a shitty UI and the developer is charging too much, people who seem to be actual customers have a thing or two to say about the UI and how they'd like some changes. The dev at least attempted to make some changes (like that cyan eyesore of a background color). For that maybe he redeemed himself a bit. I have been in a position like his before and had a design of mine crucified. I didn't go all "screw you you're wrong" at the people who told me so. I tried to approach it without being offended too much that they were ripping apart my work, and I asked about what kind of changes I should make. And I made some of them, and it came out better in the end. Lastly, I might note that one of Apple's criteria for getting accepted to the App Store was HIG compliance. This guy was far from it and still is. I guess they're just ignoring that right now.
- jrockway 18y ago
  Lastly, I might note that one of Apple's criteria for getting accepted to the App Store was HIG compliance. This guy was far from it and still is. I guess they're just ignoring that right now. FWIW, most of Apple's apps don't conform to their HIG either.
  - silencio 18y ago
    Touché. But they do a better job of designing their apps regardless. I'm curious if anyone's released a similar app with a better UI. I'm almost tempted..I could see how there can be some improvements. I can't imagine being able to use the current triplog UI without some trouble and a good reading of the manual.