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Peloton told The Verge Apple told them to remove it > The spokesperson also said: “Peloton is committed to bringing the GymKit integration to all workouts and

Peloton told The Verge Apple told them to remove it > The spokesperson also said: “Peloton is committed to bringing the GymKit integration to all workouts and disciplines within Apple’s terms of service,” seemingly suggesting bootcamp workouts didn’t fall under those terms. https://www.theverge.com/2021/4/15/22385515/peloton-bike-plus-gymkit-apple-watch-bootcamp-support https://www.theverge.com/2021/4/15/22385515/peloton-bike-plu... I don't understand why the other fitness types ran afoul of the rules... Maybe there wasn't a strict 1-to-1 mapping of activity types which Apple didn't like?

fudged71 6y ago
It threatens the Apple ecosystem so this is Apple building a moat
- jxramos 6y ago
  am I understanding this right, that Peloton is making fitness apps instead of using Apple's own fitness app?
  - DiabloD3 6y ago
    You should also consider that Apple might also be moving into the fad-space that Peloton currently exists in. As in, Apple is extending their moat to eliminate Pelton as a competitor.
    - deleted 6y ago
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    - Grimm1 6y ago
      Which would be stupid to do this on their part then, because this would be the most obvious argument to open the app markets because it would be classic, if not textbook, anti-trust circumstances.
      - zibzab 6y ago
        You realise this is not the first time this has happened? See for example Spotify
        Grimm1 6y ago
        Right but that didn't happen during a period where the US is poised to leverage anti-trust action any moment now against a large portion of the tech industry. Context and timing are important.
djrogers 6y ago
Ehhh, they didn't really say that - if they were told directly to remove that ability, one would expect them to come out and say so directly, and not make a wishy-washy statement like the above. Anything that 'seemingly suggests' something can be assumed to have been crafted specifically to suggest it while not telling the full truth.
- eganist 6y ago
  > Ehhh, they didn't really say that - if they were told directly to remove that ability, one would expect them to come out and say so directly, and not make a wishy-washy statement like the above. Anything that 'seemingly suggests' something can be assumed to have been crafted specifically to suggest it while not telling the full truth. I owe you a citation for what I'm about to say (or hopefully someone else has a link; my google-fu is failing me), but other devs/founders/etc on HN have noted that Apple also objects to devs calling Apple out for enforcing their own rules. This would be a subtle way of working around that draconian restriction.
fuzzylightbulb 6y ago
https://www.theverge.com/2021/4/16/22387412/peloton-apple-watch-integration-gymkit-statement-terms-of-service https://www.theverge.com/2021/4/16/22387412/peloton-apple-wa... Looks like the "strict 1-to-1 mapping of activity types" is the issue here.

fudged71 6y ago

It threatens the Apple ecosystem so this is Apple building a moat

jxramos 6y ago
am I understanding this right, that Peloton is making fitness apps instead of using Apple's own fitness app?
- DiabloD3 6y ago
  You should also consider that Apple might also be moving into the fad-space that Peloton currently exists in. As in, Apple is extending their moat to eliminate Pelton as a competitor.
  - deleted 6y ago
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  - Grimm1 6y ago
    Which would be stupid to do this on their part then, because this would be the most obvious argument to open the app markets because it would be classic, if not textbook, anti-trust circumstances.
    - zibzab 6y ago
      You realise this is not the first time this has happened? See for example Spotify
      - Grimm1 6y ago
        Right but that didn't happen during a period where the US is poised to leverage anti-trust action any moment now against a large portion of the tech industry. Context and timing are important.

djrogers 6y ago

Ehhh, they didn't really say that - if they were told directly to remove that ability, one would expect them to come out and say so directly, and not make a wishy-washy statement like the above. Anything that 'seemingly suggests' something can be assumed to have been crafted specifically to suggest it while not telling the full truth.

eganist 6y ago
> Ehhh, they didn't really say that - if they were told directly to remove that ability, one would expect them to come out and say so directly, and not make a wishy-washy statement like the above. Anything that 'seemingly suggests' something can be assumed to have been crafted specifically to suggest it while not telling the full truth. I owe you a citation for what I'm about to say (or hopefully someone else has a link; my google-fu is failing me), but other devs/founders/etc on HN have noted that Apple also objects to devs calling Apple out for enforcing their own rules. This would be a subtle way of working around that draconian restriction.

fuzzylightbulb 6y ago

https://www.theverge.com/2021/4/16/22387412/peloton-apple-watch-integration-gymkit-statement-terms-of-service https://www.theverge.com/2021/4/16/22387412/peloton-apple-wa... Looks like the "strict 1-to-1 mapping of activity types" is the issue here.