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For web development the Chrome developer tools are very good. Frankly I can't seen myself living without them now.

by nkassis 15y ago

eliben 15y ago
You should really give Firebug a try then ;-) Not that Chrome's dev tools are bad, but Firebug is terrific
- stuartmemo 15y ago
  That's the point though I guess. Why use a different browser and install an extension when you have great tools built-in to your default browser?
  - lhnz 15y ago
    This is just opinion, but: I wouldn't consider chrome tools great if I was comparing them to firebug. I find development on any other browser very cumbersome.
    - stuartmemo 15y ago
      What things in Firebug do you prefer over Chrome? Genuinely interested.
      - lhnz 15y ago
        I actually just opened it to try and remember what annoyed me. It's really the UX which I just don't think is as good: feature-wise it's pretty similar. (a) It's a lot more cluttered, (b) the UI components which are used are cumbersome: for example the right panel on firebug has a tab at the top while the alternative in chrome isn't as space conscious, (c) icons everywhere which just waste space, (d) I am not sure how to create new CSS properties to attach attributes to, (e) options which aren't obvious to me "Break on sub-tree modifications" -- what will this do? I could go on. It doesn't feel as responsive as firebug and ultimately firebug just helps me do the most basic tasks as quickly as possible. When I use Chrome I feel confused by the UI, it's difficult to do certain basic things and there are extra features which I don't understand.
- nkassis 15y ago
  What particular features do you find Firebug better at? Last time I was working with Firebug I don't remember it having a profiler and very easy to use debugger. I might have missed it.
  - evilbit 15y ago
    Not sure what you mean. Visual debugger (with breakpoints and all) in FireBug is almost on par with IDEs.
- Hovertruck 15y ago
  I used to swear by Firebug, but these days it actually feels sluggish compared to the Chrome dev tools.

For web development the Chrome developer tools are very good. Frankly I can't seen myself living without them now.

by nkassis 15y ago

For web development the Chrome developer tools are very good. Frankly I can't seen myself living without them now.

eliben 15y ago

You should really give Firebug a try then ;-) Not that Chrome's dev tools are bad, but Firebug is terrific

stuartmemo 15y ago
That's the point though I guess. Why use a different browser and install an extension when you have great tools built-in to your default browser?
- lhnz 15y ago
  This is just opinion, but: I wouldn't consider chrome tools great if I was comparing them to firebug. I find development on any other browser very cumbersome.
  - stuartmemo 15y ago
    What things in Firebug do you prefer over Chrome? Genuinely interested.
    - lhnz 15y ago
      I actually just opened it to try and remember what annoyed me. It's really the UX which I just don't think is as good: feature-wise it's pretty similar. (a) It's a lot more cluttered, (b) the UI components which are used are cumbersome: for example the right panel on firebug has a tab at the top while the alternative in chrome isn't as space conscious, (c) icons everywhere which just waste space, (d) I am not sure how to create new CSS properties to attach attributes to, (e) options which aren't obvious to me "Break on sub-tree modifications" -- what will this do? I could go on. It doesn't feel as responsive as firebug and ultimately firebug just helps me do the most basic tasks as quickly as possible. When I use Chrome I feel confused by the UI, it's difficult to do certain basic things and there are extra features which I don't understand.
nkassis 15y ago
What particular features do you find Firebug better at? Last time I was working with Firebug I don't remember it having a profiler and very easy to use debugger. I might have missed it.
- evilbit 15y ago
  Not sure what you mean. Visual debugger (with breakpoints and all) in FireBug is almost on par with IDEs.
Hovertruck 15y ago
I used to swear by Firebug, but these days it actually feels sluggish compared to the Chrome dev tools.