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> The expulsion and forced conversion of Jews was a foreshadow of the Holocaust. That's quite a leap...and historically illiterate. In the Middle Ages, the Je
by bobthechef 6y ago
> The expulsion and forced conversion of Jews was a foreshadow of the Holocaust.
That's quite a leap...and historically illiterate.
In the Middle Ages, the Jew was primarily a theological concept, not a biological or ethnic one. To be a Jew was to be someone who rejected Christ. In the New Testament, "the Jews" as described as those who called on Jesus to be crucified. Now, who are "the Jews"? After all, Jesus was a Jew. His mother, Mary, was a Jew as were the apostles (from whom we receive the gospels themselves) as well as the many Jews who became the first Christians. Obviously, "the Jews" refers to those who took the negative theological position. The moment you convert to Christianity is the moment you stop being a "Jew" in the theological sense. The Nazi concept of the Jew was entirely biological and racial. You couldn't stop being a Jew simply because you assimilated into some other culture or adopted a different religion.
Now w.r.t. the Church's historical position toward the Jews, I suggest you look at the papal bull Sicut Judaeis[0]. To quote the Wikipedia article:
The bull forbade Christians, on pain of excommunication, from forcing Jews to convert, from harming them, from taking their property, from disturbing the celebration of their festivals, and from interfering with their cemeteries. [...] The Bull said that Jews should be treated equitably and justly, that their property rights should be protected, and that they should keep their own festivals and religious practices.
(Worth adding is that Christians were at times also at a "disadvantage" given the universality of Christianity. For example, Christians were forbidden from engaging in usurious transactions with anybody, while the Talmud only forbade Jews from doing so with other Jews: Gentiles were fair game.)
More about the history of toleration [1].
[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sicut_Judaeis https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sicut_Judaeis
[1] https://www.newadvent.org/cathen/14761a.htm https://www.newadvent.org/cathen/14761a.htm
- maldusiecle 6y agoThe forcible conversion of Jews in Spain was in fact one of the first points where Jews were treated as a racial rather than religious category. There's a bit of detail on this in the Wikipedia page for Limpieza de sangre: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Limpieza_de_sangre https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Limpieza_de_sangre Some of this happened more towards the Renaissance than the middle ages, of course, but it certainly disproves this rosy and ahistorical view of the Spanish Inquisition.
- goto11 6y ago> Now w.r.t. the Church's historical position toward the Jews, I suggest you look at the papal bull... You could also look at what the Church actually did towards Jews, for example in Spain. It is both hilarious and chilling that you justify the persecution of Jews with Christians being "disadvantaged" in comparison because they couldn't lend money at interest.